• ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    With violent conviction: 7%

    That’s a lot higher than the general population, isn’t it? Google says it’s 2-4% estimated (there’s apparently no explicit data collected on specifically violent convictions—there is for “felony” convictions, but there are a ton of non-violent felonies, so that’s pretty useless for this kind of comparison).

    I also can’t help but notice that the article, especially the headline, is very careful to say “most” only about certain “city crackdowns”. According to the same chart in the article, among all ICE arrests across the US from Jan 20th to Oct 15th, only 33% had “No criminal charges”, which means 67% of them did have criminal charges. Pretty stark contrast to what the headline would like to imply, isn’t it?

    Overall, pretty blatant cherry-picking. I hate that it’s so difficult to find media that will just present the facts without any spin.

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      What point are you trying to make about it being higher than the general population? That they are doing ever so slightly better than arresting people at random?

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        What point are you trying to make about it being higher than the general population?

        …that that demographic contains more than double the incidence of violent criminals than the general population. What else?

        That they are doing ever so slightly better than arresting people at random?

        The crime ICE is arresting people for is not a violent one, so this is a complete non-sequitur.

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        9 hours ago

        Criminal charges isn’t a fucking conviction.

        Nobody said it was, straw man builder. But the headline is deliberately misleading, and that’s what I was pointing out.

        There is literally zero reason to cherry-pick specific cities when assessing ICE’s actions as a department.