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I think I am allowed to respond to sarcasm without acknowledging it, it doesn’t have to mean I don’t understand it.

Lol that is a funny autocorrect, but yeah, I’m done here

Good luck trying to understood this

No it is proof that it is true because a system that does not have the data to create an experience cannot create the experience.

I am 100% saying the body is a computer with sensory attachments I have no idea where you got the things about peripheral and central nervous system from.

Nowhere am I claiming that we can’t have shared experiences in fact I have been telling you the opposite.

What I am claiming is a quote coming from the researcher that made lucid dreaming well known from a lab setting, Stephen laberge.

I am in no way saying the only experience we have as individuals is only our own, since detecting outside information with sensory organs means we are detecting information outside of us which is coming from other people or objects for example.

I think what this is suggesting in its furthest extent is that what makes us function is far from being understood and that the reality is something we aren’t capable of understanding because it exists outside of our set of sensory input unless we can use tools to collapse information to within our range of sensory input.

Your link suggests you have no idea what point I have been making this whole time.

The point I am closest to making is the same one that the Tibetan buddhists are suggesting which is the non dual reality of experiencing things through the lens of perception.

People blind at birth dream of perceiving hearing unconstrained by sensory input so yes it is true still even for people blind from birth. I have a friend who is this case actually.

There is nothing narcissistic about it because it only proves that we are individuals with individual experience, something that everyone has been aware of for a long time, we still all operate on the substrate that is outside of our body with its brain and sensory organs.

Dreaming is perception unconstrained by sensory input

Reality is dreaming constrained by sensory input

None of that suggests this can’t be the case though.

What I’m saying is that for example, dreams are not real, and yet they can and often are indistinguishable from reality, many even have dreams where they are aware they are dreaming and can control them the same way we can control what we do while awake.

This is only possible because we have bodily systems for producing experiences.

The simulation idea doesn’t work only because people apply it incorrectly. Our brains do in fact create our experiences with no contact to the world outside our bodies, its our sensory organs that give data to the brain to create our perception of experiencing things.

We are all partly made of simulators, but knowing this changes nothing for each of us since we can start associating ourselves with a larger force of nature that happens when we group ourselves together for changes we want to see in the world.

I meant like it puts pressure on the us to make things so they can make things on their own

I think it could pressure the us to produce more things fully domestically