• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      oh, this shit again from you. you need new material. you infantilize Kamala so much that she is no longer responsible for her success or failures. it’s always the voters fault, blah blah blah.

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        9 days ago

        When the choice is between Harris and what we have now it is the voter’s fault.

        Maybe a bit of Harris’s fault for not sitting down and personally explaining what the choice is.

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          8 days ago

          Maybe a bit of Harris’s fault for not sitting down and personally explaining what the choice is.

          Yes, it was. It was on the entire party establishment for not being alarmist enough, and on the entire party NOW for not being alarmist enough. We are in 3rd Reich level fascism and they still act like we live in a stable liberal democracy. They refuse to rock the boat and admit how dire things are because their narrative cannot perceive the rules being different. By not rejecting the status quo they legitimize it. By treating this blatantly corrupt dictatorship as normal, they make it the baseline for all future governments.

          What they should be doing is literally risking their lives. Filibustering, running desperate campaigns, calling the immigration facilities concentration camps and ICE Trump’s personal thugs who are above the law. They should be honest about Trump making the constitution meaningless, about the entire system of liberal democracy being dismantled completely. If that makes Trump become more heavy handed with lawmakers, that would be good. If it causes him to suspend Congress, that’ll make the resistance to him even more popular. Make him destroy the illusion of civility, as nothing they’ve been doing within the system has slowed him down.

          You’re so close to getting it that it’s fucking depressing.

          • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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            8 days ago

            I don’t fully blame them.

            They called it out the first time, they tried to convict and impeach him but they got blocked every way.

            Then after Jan 6 and Biden nobody thought he would get back in again but the American voters did with a massive helping hand from all the tired and disillusioned and now we’re here.

            This should have never happened and now all I hear about is Bernie’s failed primary in 2016 and I keep asked why haven’t these voters organized a take over or anything but they’re too busy blaming the party and finding reasons why people aren’t left enough for them to support.

            Don’t be depressed about what I say be depressed that it has to be said but no one will listen.

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        9 days ago

        I mean, yeah but the current problem started with education and ended with the voting booth.

        Now what we can blame Schumer for is voter apathy by leading a party the prioritized appealing to Republicans instead of progressive and spurring apathy but I still think we all knew what was at stake at the voting booth this time around.

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        9 days ago

        I’d say the chances that there’s armed thugs taking over states and shooting Americans would probably be zero.

        Not sure about brunch.

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          I’m sorry that the violence you were okay with happening overseas has come home to roost but I don’t think that makes Kamala morally superior in any way. If this upsets you I suggest you reflect on your complicity with genocide.

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            9 days ago

            That’s a lot of accusations with very little facts.

            Far as I can tell both the Palestine and Ukraine genocides are worse now and Trump’s kidnapped the president of a sovereign nation while threatening to invade another.

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              How has the genocide gotten worse? They just seem to be doing the same exact shit the Biden admin was doing, right down to planning to parcel out Gaza to American companies. The course has held if anything, and Harris certainly wasn’t trying to distance herself from that plan. If you voted for her, you were okay that happening just with different people benefitting.

              She may not have kidnapped a foreign head of state but they had no problem killing Venezuelan citizens with economic sanctions, the immiseration caused by this blamed on Maduro and used as part of the justification for the coop Trump executed. They were literally building a casus belli to do this themselves, or at least creating the conditions for a domestic coop they could fund and arm.

              Edit: if anything Trump’s inept execution of the coop has left a power vacuum that could be filled by someone who isn’t a US sock puppet, unlike that Nobel Prize winner the dems were probably grooming as Maduro’s successor.

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                  i did look into it more, and my statement is over generalizing (aka wrong).

                  biden had paused a single shipment of bombs, trump released it. But notable is that biden did not stop the sale.

                  trump removed the cap on how much arms could be sold, and that is a direct escalation, vs biden metered expansion of sales

                  there was the dismantling of UNRWA, which biden just started the process of doing

                  and the sale of bulldozers for the purpose of destroying the homes of palestinians to create an illegal pro israel “security zone”.

                  so you are right, while the biden admin were working to do these things, trump seems to be speed running their end game which is directly worse.

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                    Yeah don’t get me wrong Biden wasn’t my favorite but the ICE funding he put in place was for expansion on accommodations to prisoners so they could be treated humanely while in custody.

                    In regards to Gaza, not going to defend him, he was all talk no action. Israel’s actions were a travesty from the start.

                    However it has only expanded under Trump. If one could compare the magnitude of travesties such as this it has only accelerated under Trump.