Several niche, left-leaning gun advocacy groups said that since the killing of Alex Pretti by federal agents in Minneapolis, they can hardly keep up with the surging demand for firearms training.
With Donald Trump sending armed federal agents into communities around the country, even more once gun-shy liberals and leftists are considering getting armed.
And while Americans tend to think of gun owners as leaning more Republican and male, already more women, gay people and people of color have taken up arms in recent years, particularly after 2020.
Dude shut up. It’s never gonna be enough for you, is it? “Oh well they picked up some garbage on the side of the road but DIDN’T SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING SO THEY ARE LIB SHITS!”
Oh someone joined a left leaning gun group and might want to start getting more involved? “FUCKEM I’M GONNA GATE KEEP THE REVOLUTION THEY ARE POSEURS THEY SHOULD MAKE THEIR OWN GROUP!”
So sorry some people are new to this or changing their mind and not doing something big and dramatic that looks exciting enough for you, even if they suddenly changed their minds and agreed with you 100% that’s not good enough they should’ve thought this way forever ago.
Freaking hamstringing your own movement because you hate the newbies? Don’t want to do the boring long work of permanent change? Just want to sit back and think of a communist commune Israel but don’t want to wash the dishes?
Let the people in, be welcoming, show them the ropes. Encourage people to practice with their gun instead of shitting on them. If you’re already in these groups, you should want your numbers to grow, not be a gatekeeping twat.
Pull your head out of your ass.
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Letting liberals into leftist spaces halts progress. We end up needing to fight with them more than whatever it is we are protesting. All the stuff liberals call leftist infighting is us fending off liberals trying to invade our spaces and control the situation. We do NOT want the same things. Liberals want reform, which does not work.
If you believe in something, and want to fight for it, your first priority should be trying to convince other people it’s a good idea. Your attitude does more harm than good; you’re incapable of thinking people can change their mind, because you’re incapable of changing yours.
It makes more sense to get people to like your idea than pushing them away, unless you think you’re going to do it with force.
And alienating people means you wouldn’t even be able to do that.
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Plus it keeps the US vs THEM mentality always at a forefront. Great for retention, bad for conversion.
I’m not alienating anyone, i would be willing to work with their organizations, but not to invite them into leftist spaces so they can neutralize our movements.
You quite literally just said that you don’t alienate anyone while describing how you alienate them.
Also, your shit attitude definitely alienates people. You’re the equivalent of what the Westboro Baptist Church does to Christianity, i.e. you’re a loud hateful prick that actively pushes people away from a group they want people to join by being an asshole.
For the sake of your own revolution, shut up.
They can form their own coalitions. Demanding membership in an organization you are not part of is infantile and always results in the organization failing. There was a reason The Black Panthers didn’t let white people or any other races in. But they worked with Latino groups, with Young Lords, with Young Patriots, etc but those groups fought specific causes.
The difference is that while you can’t change your race, you can change your political ideology, and if you want people to believe in your political ideology you have to actually let people into your little club. And not be a massive prick.
Or, what, you think the revolution is going to work with the seven people you personally agree with?
The idea is to meet them where they are at, not where I’m at
Yeah and I’m sure people are lining up to listen to you. What shouldn’t they? When you call them liberal pieces of shit, it’s a pretty convincing argument to hang out with you and get to hear your ideas.
Face it, all you’ve done for communism is give it a bad name.
Oh, do you need to do that?
And so guns are only for the hardcore progressives, or any conservative? Is that what’s happening here?
No, they have their own gun clubs they can join
Ok, well good luck with your care bear revolution, buddy.
Liberals know nothing about revolution, only colonization, which is what you are advocating for.
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Liberals have claimed for decades they are harm reduction while somehow harm keeps growing. Keep deluding yourself. Liberals contribute to harm by keeping the wheels of facism greased up. They will accept milquetoast concessions by their party to expand ICE with reforms,. In the meantime nothing changes.