• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    We’ve been over this.

    Anyone can set up a Substack blog. It’s not a valid source. Same with Blogger, same with Medium.

    If it gets posted through a legitmate news source, it’s 100% welcome.

    Blog sites aren’t news.

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      This is an absolutely braindead lazy take.

      The same professional journalists who’ve worked at these big media corporations have used the substack platform to open up sites in droves so they can focus on more niche topics, or just escape the censorship of owners and advertisers.

      If you think that legitimate news can only come from a company owned by billionaires, then you’re wrong.

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        Once they start writing for a reputable source again, we’ll be happy to link to them. We aren’t linking to blog sites.

        Again, because we aren’t going to be drawn into the debate of “Why did you allow THAT Blogger site but not MY bullshit blogspam site?”

        We aren’t going to manually vet 10,000 blog sites, twitter accounts, facebook pages, reddit posts, Instagrams, etc. etc.

        The only FAIR way to do it is what we’re doing now: “No, not a valid source. Find a legitimate source.”

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      Then Hosam was not a journalist but a terrorist. Because he writes for a news organisation which publishes their articles using Substack.

      Thank you for censoring a journalist who died to get the word out, using made up rules. You must be very proud of yourself.

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        7 months ago

        It’s not about censoring anyone, it’s removing invalid sources. If they get re-hosted through a legitimate news site like Al Jazeera, fantastic. Go for it.

        But we aren’t going to allow the community to be filled with bullshit blog sources.

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          Dropsitenews, a site ran by two top ex-journalists from TheIntercept, is a “blog site” because it is published on SubStack?

          This is clearly gatekeeping so only mainstream media sources are allowed and no independent journalists.

          You do not get to decide what is and what is not journalism. You are refusing to provide factual errors in the reporting and instead go for a cheap cop-out.

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            7 months ago

            Yes, as I stated previously, we aren’t engaging in “buh buh you allowed that OTHER link, why not miiiiiine?” Blog sites aren’t allowed, full stop.

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              You are already banning certain websites and not allowing others at the discretion of a rating system operated by a Zionist. MBFC is rated by Wikipedia as unreliable source. Yet this does not seem to bother your “factuality”.

              There are not a thousand independent journalists and news outlets popping up on Substack and people keep posting different ones. There only a handful actual journalists on there not writing opinion articles but doing real reporting.

    • Substack is not a blogging platform. You can host a blog using Substack, but not every site built using Substack is a blog.

      Dropsitenews is clearly not a blog. That should be immediately evident if you open the website. The about-page also clearly explains how they are an independent news organization with reputable journalists working for it. Even MBFC classifies them as a news organization.

      If your argument is “it’s a substack website so it’s a blog, but a completely identical-looking website that’s not built using substack isn’t a blog, so it’s allowed”, then you’re not arguing along the lines of rule 1, you’re arguing along the lines of an unwritten rule that is supposed to help reinforce rule 1. If so, it should be explained in the sidebar. The post as-is does not violate rule 1 in any reasonable interpretation. If you have a different argumentation as to why Dropsitenews is a blog, you should provide it so that people know what to expect from the mod team.

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        If it’s hosted on a blog hosting site, by definition, it’s a blog. It doesn’t matter if it’s substack, blogger, medium, wordpress, what have you. We don’t send traffic to blogs.

        And, again, we don’t differentiate because we aren’t going to be drawn into the argument of “but what about this one, but what about that one…”

        NO BLOGS!

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            Then they’re welcome to pony up for a domain registration and detach themselves from a host that also has un-vetted material.

            Look, it’s really simple:

            There are legit journalists on Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube too… we don’t allow links to those sites EITHER.

            This is NO DIFFERENT. We aren’t going through an entire platform, account by account, picking and choosing.

            • Then they’re welcome to pony up for a domain registration

              https://www.dropsitenews.com/ is their domain that they’ve registered through Squarespace?? Hello?

              There are legit journalists on Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube too… we don’t allow links to those sites EITHER.

              False equivalence. Substack is more similar to Wordpress than it is to Twitter or Medium.

              This is NO DIFFERENT. We aren’t going through an entire platform, account by account, picking and choosing.

              But it is different, you’ve just elected to plug your ears regarding any and all evidence to the contrary. You don’t have to “pick and choose accounts”, they have their own domain and no other “accounts” on Substack are accessible through it. It’s completely isolated.

              This entire charade could easily be solved using a simple domain whitelist/blacklist method, yet you’ve decided that using that simple solution is too difficult, despite plenty of mod teams using this method due to its transparancy and ease of moderation.

              Your argumentation so far has been completely detached from the reality here. You are presenting things as facts that are easily refuted by taking a 1-minute look at the website. If you can’t even manage that, then I can’t help you here.

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                  Lol, doesn’t address what they said at all

                  You bitched that they didn’t register their own domain, the other guy pointed out they did, and you just went back to going “but it’s substack!!!” When they’ve already destroyed your piss ass argument against the platform