Im glad that people in your office are responsible enough to keep their teams status updated but many don’t and in a big company with majority hybrid workers this will be a useful feature and I look forward to it being enabled since im always in office.
Your comment is wild I have to ask what you think you’re fighting here? How does updating a teams status to display if you’re working in the office or at home over step boundaries and open the floodgates for big scary control schemes? If its a company device this changes nothing, if they want to track your location they wont be using this teams feature. if they want to micromanage you or spy on you they wont be using this teams feature.
You just have no idea and are lashing out at things you dont understand. You havent even read the article. There is no privacy issue here its not Microsoft tracking any more than they already do and its not employer tracking.
i’ve worked in multiple organisations of over 100 000 employees with majority hybrid workers and this has never come up. can you explain what positives this information will give you?
To see if someone’s in office. Example you book a meeting and you check the event in outlook and it shows that everyone’s in office today so you can grab a meeting room and do it in person.
Someone raises a ticket for an issue thats easy to solve manually and you see theyre in tbe office so you go fix it.
Someone is looking for your coworker and you check teams and see hes working over at site B
How can you not see what positive info this would give? Have you never asked someone if they are in the office today, I would find that pretty hard to believe.
no i haven’t, because i have access to an asynchronous communication medium with which i can get the information i need from people in text form. when working in international teams every meeting is online anyway and tickets are usually resolved by either development or fixes to the online system. someone needing onsite help would constitute an emergency.
the only info i need from status lines is whether someone is on vacation or not.
If only you had access to a piece of communications software with which you could ask your coworkers if they’re in the office or not, and when they’re likely to be.
No one cares enough to update them thats the point but its still useful to be able to check at a glance if someone is wfh or not. I’m sorry this is such a challenging concept to you to grasp.
the part that is challenging to me is why anyone expects that to actually work?
have you been paying attention for the last 20+ years now?
i want to say there was maybe a period of 5 years around mid 2000 where it did but microslop has been awful for decades
and i can count on 2 hands the number of times the issue was urgent enough to need an immediate response regardless of what middle management thinks (and phone calls worked fine)
so over working for bigcap company cultures and middle managers having too little actual work
ms literally pushed a vibe coded update that boot lopped multiple dev machines for a week before we resolved it
technically it was fixed same day but only because we have regular nightly images and other machines
that alone should be enough of a reason, this is just more shit on the camel’s back
but so you know I’m not downvoting you, nothing you’ve said is unreasonable, I just really have no patience with current tech companies and clearly lemmy is sick of ms’ shit
Microsoft pushing a bad update and breaking dev machines is an issue with your it department. Every single OS pushes bad updates thats why you stagger your releases through rings so you can catch the issues early and minimise downtime.
Imagine if we stopped using linux because of a bad update.
Why? Work from home, not work from home, the works the same. I can’t understand how this changes how you work. Unless your employer is very bad at figuring out how to do it. That is the only conclusion one can come to.
Your work does a poor job, so you rely on outdated work methods. There is no other way to look at this.
It should not change how you work. That is the problem, for some reason it does for you, meaning your work, or you, do not know how to work efficiently.
And to be fair, if your work doesn’t fix this problem it really isn’t your fault. They should be nipping this crap in the bud and calling it out. Re-training people and getting productive.
You still havent given a single reason. You just spout the same shit over and over as if you’re some authority on the topic and we should all just believe things are the way you say they are.
Im sure you are very hard to work with and once this feature is rolled out you’ll still get no one coming by your desk.
Im glad that people in your office are responsible enough to keep their teams status updated but many don’t and in a big company with majority hybrid workers this will be a useful feature and I look forward to it being enabled since im always in office.
Your comment is wild I have to ask what you think you’re fighting here? How does updating a teams status to display if you’re working in the office or at home over step boundaries and open the floodgates for big scary control schemes? If its a company device this changes nothing, if they want to track your location they wont be using this teams feature. if they want to micromanage you or spy on you they wont be using this teams feature.
If you can’t see it, it’s either willful ignorance or a chasm too wide for me.
Best of luck, you’re going to need it
You just have no idea and are lashing out at things you dont understand. You havent even read the article. There is no privacy issue here its not Microsoft tracking any more than they already do and its not employer tracking.
i’ve worked in multiple organisations of over 100 000 employees with majority hybrid workers and this has never come up. can you explain what positives this information will give you?
To see if someone’s in office. Example you book a meeting and you check the event in outlook and it shows that everyone’s in office today so you can grab a meeting room and do it in person.
Someone raises a ticket for an issue thats easy to solve manually and you see theyre in tbe office so you go fix it.
Someone is looking for your coworker and you check teams and see hes working over at site B
How can you not see what positive info this would give? Have you never asked someone if they are in the office today, I would find that pretty hard to believe.
no i haven’t, because i have access to an asynchronous communication medium with which i can get the information i need from people in text form. when working in international teams every meeting is online anyway and tickets are usually resolved by either development or fixes to the online system. someone needing onsite help would constitute an emergency.
the only info i need from status lines is whether someone is on vacation or not.
So basically your team works very, very poorly.
No?
If only you had access to a piece of communications software with which you could ask your coworkers if they’re in the office or not, and when they’re likely to be.
Maybe MS could make one of those that worked.
Are you trying to say that messaging a co worker to see if theyre in the office is quicker than checking their status?
You’re welcome to continue doing that but that sounds awful and I doubt you’ll do it once this rollsout.
My team is constantly on the road and don’t live at their computers.
I doubt any of our guys actually realise you can set your status on Teams, and no one would think to look at it.
Well lucky for them they won’t have to worry about it.
what moron cares about updated teams statuses? that sounds like such a painful office environment
No one cares enough to update them thats the point but its still useful to be able to check at a glance if someone is wfh or not. I’m sorry this is such a challenging concept to you to grasp.
the part that is challenging to me is why anyone expects that to actually work?
have you been paying attention for the last 20+ years now?
i want to say there was maybe a period of 5 years around mid 2000 where it did but microslop has been awful for decades
and i can count on 2 hands the number of times the issue was urgent enough to need an immediate response regardless of what middle management thinks (and phone calls worked fine)
so over working for bigcap company cultures and middle managers having too little actual work
By that logic dont bother implementing anything because what if it doesnt work.
It’ll work good enough for most and better than the current status situation.
or you know stop using overpriced miroshit products
pay your workers well and treat them like adults
and cut useless middle management
sadly my company still uses ms but at least they nail the other two
You hate ms, I do as well but thats not relevant to the discussion. We’re just talking a minor feature release and Lemmy is overreacting.
You hate MS, I do as well but its not relevant to talk about throwing it all out. This is just about a minor feature release and lemmys overreaction.
ms literally pushed a vibe coded update that boot lopped multiple dev machines for a week before we resolved it
technically it was fixed same day but only because we have regular nightly images and other machines
that alone should be enough of a reason, this is just more shit on the camel’s back
but so you know I’m not downvoting you, nothing you’ve said is unreasonable, I just really have no patience with current tech companies and clearly lemmy is sick of ms’ shit
Microsoft pushing a bad update and breaking dev machines is an issue with your it department. Every single OS pushes bad updates thats why you stagger your releases through rings so you can catch the issues early and minimise downtime.
Imagine if we stopped using linux because of a bad update.
Why? Work from home, not work from home, the works the same. I can’t understand how this changes how you work. Unless your employer is very bad at figuring out how to do it. That is the only conclusion one can come to.
Your work does a poor job, so you rely on outdated work methods. There is no other way to look at this.
If they’re in the office we can talk face to face if theyre at home we teams call. You are actually beyond cooked if you’re unable to understand this.
If your job is as simple as receive instruction return output then I see how this doesnt change much but thats not every job.
If you don’t talk to people why even have an office? This change isnt for fully remote workplaces.
And you are demonstrating terrible work habits.
It should not change how you work. That is the problem, for some reason it does for you, meaning your work, or you, do not know how to work efficiently.
And to be fair, if your work doesn’t fix this problem it really isn’t your fault. They should be nipping this crap in the bud and calling it out. Re-training people and getting productive.
You still havent given a single reason. You just spout the same shit over and over as if you’re some authority on the topic and we should all just believe things are the way you say they are.
Im sure you are very hard to work with and once this feature is rolled out you’ll still get no one coming by your desk.