I don’t know how relevant this is now, but here’s a link to another post where I expressed my thoughts on what kind of pitfalls you might most likely face – https://lemmy.world/post/36867409
By the way, what is this phenomenon on Lemmy? Let’s say people are reluctant to read and comment on old posts published just a couple of days or a week ago, but with new ones, it’s a completely different story. What kind of psychology is this? Or it seemed to me?
By the way, what is this phenomenon on Lemmy? Let’s say people are reluctant to read and comment on old posts published just a couple of days or a week ago, but with new ones, it’s a completely different story. What kind of psychology is this? Or it seemed to me?
In the default lemmy feed (in browser view at least), posts only show if they’re younger than 3 days (72 hours). So older posts typically get ignored, so nobody wants to comment there because nobody will read these comments anyways.
There are some legit criticisms from the left on UBI, it’s myopic focus on consumption, the possibility of it being eaten away due to inflation it causes and becoming a gift to landlords etc. I don’t think “the government will use it to control us” is a good one as that can be said about any social service the government provides. Should we not have universal Healthcare because if a fascist takes over he can kick you off the roles and you’ll die from a preventable disease?
Filling everyone’s basic needs will be a vast social undertaking that will require a lot of organization, just because someone might take over that organization and wield it for power doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make it, it just means we have to keep careful watch over it when we do.
A wise answer… But times are tense now, and who knows what surprises await us next. By the way, I recommend looking into what a CBDC is, in my opinion, they will also try to introduce this after digital IDs…
I’m not sure what your meme is saying. Is the implication that if there is UBI, then nobody will work anymore? I might be misunderstanding
Well, unfortunately, I couldn’t find a better picture.
So, just a heads up, that comment was an invitation to clarify what specifically you are trying to say with your meme.
people see newer posts in their feeds so they get more attention. Has nothing to do with reluctance
I don’t comment on old posts to avoid necroin’ xD Old habit from forums and such.
I always hate when I’m reading an old thread, someone comments with a great point, and then someone else starts an argument about necroing.
Gonna be honest, not like I understand it really. I mean, it may be bothersome to get pinged on something you commented 3 days earlier - people move on from such things quite quickly…but I believe it’s just internet culture rn. Like memes getting old quickly etc.
Yes, I asked a stupid question.
UBI is a bad idea because it reinforces and relies on the capitalist idea of money. We should make basic resources themselves free, like a supermarket you can walk into and take stuff without paying, rather than giving people points to buy stuff that costs points.
I agree with you, but also I’m not gonna say no if they did implement UBI. Anarchist mutual aid is better than money, but UBI is better than nothing
Anarchist
anarchism only works with the right kind of people, i’d say. which not everyone is.
Everything only works with the right kind of people. No system is perfect and will always have people who disagree and work to destabilize it and change it. Like America isnt falling to fascism for no reason. So we should at least work towards as free and kind of a world that we can
Fundamentally money is a way of allocating limited resources. As long as there remains greed and limited resources, there need to be such limits. All anti-capitalist campaigners seem to rightly agree that human greed is a constant factor, so it would be crazy to forget it here.
If you give out money the people who own stuff (rich people) will just increase prices and take all that money.
So, why don’t they do just increase all the prices now?
If you print £100 and give it to every person, then yes. But if you tax every person with progressive taxation so that the poor pay little or no tax, and then give everyone £100 using the proceeds, no, because you are changing the distribution of resource-allocation-units between the people who had the most and the least of them previously.
Even in the former example the inflation hits the billionaire harder than the worker. For example if we all got a trillion dollars it wouldn’t really matter that Elon has a trillion and a half. Scale that same principle down and UBI is good for the workers.
The “price increases” side of inflation harms the people that hold money.
Billionaires do hold more than poor people, but they still mostly don’t hold any. It’s normally the high-middle class and the poorest fraction of the rich that are hit the most here. You need proper taxation to reach the billionaires.
If we accept that the act of living is inherently a destructive action by our consumption of natural resources.
Then design production chains that try to meet local demand while transparently measuring and minimising actual loss.
We can open stores like this who in an early stage are for select groups like elderly and disabled. The total loss is just a reference number similar to national debt.
Using digital communications polling to measure actual demand to project production needs becomes simplified because potential clients don’t have to choose how to spend a limited currency.
As those production chains and new standards for how to measure loss expand so can we expand clients to include the people who work in such industries and eventually everyone.
Crucial is we don’t need an overnight revolution. This system can get its roots By co existing within current capitalism with the calculated loss simply measured as a financial debt.
The biggest hurdle is legalizing an industry that basically gets a blank free debt card that can be spend on input resources, while making sure they maintain transparent calculations and dedication to minimize planetary loss.
This cannot work in the real world unfortunately. there will always exist greedy self-centered people (coincidentally also the type striving most successfully towards position of power), they will not abide by rules of courtesy that this requires.
We shame them. Greedy people should feel panic at the thought of someone noticing their greediness
Granted that would take a couple generations to instill, but it would help if we started with food
Free food, take as much as you want, but it’s all unprocessed. Lots of stuff would last a while, but greedy people would just make a ton of work for themselves
We produce so much this is an actual option
It’s not like a situation where one greedy person is dropped in the middle of a society of altruists, and the whole thing goes belly up. It is possible to educate a society on what greed looks like, what its effects are, and how to deal with people who try to become utility monsters.
Well, I’m wondering what kind of chaos will start, because these fascists don’t plan on stopping. They want to create cyberpunk and dystopia at any cost, even by stealing taxpayers’ money and more.
