• Denjin@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    But short of aliens, no one could take over, as you say, without violent repression of their opponents so that by definition, they’re no longer benevolent.

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      2 days ago

      You speak of absolutely when even without aliens there is a chance. People should have more hope in humanity, which i have little of(but not none!).

      Also i never said no violence, its clear there will probably be plenty. But there can be justified violence to aim for the greater good.

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        2 days ago

        How can you consider the violent oppression of people, whether you happen to agree with them or not, to be in any way benevolent?

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          1 day ago

          Because i dont believe everyone deserves mercy. There are some people who just gotta go.

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            1 day ago

            How are you not understanding my point? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

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              18 hours ago

              I think you’re the one miss understanding. I get your point, but i disagree with it.

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                18 hours ago

                No, I am not. By definition you cannot be benevolent in any form if your method of seizing power is to murder your opposition. That’s just being a regular dictator.

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                  17 hours ago

                  Yes yes i know thats what you said. I dont agree with that assessment or definition as you called it. I however believe getting rid of bad actors who are purposely evil and harming humanity is a good thing. So then they would still be benevolent to me.

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                    17 hours ago

                    So what you’re actually saying is you want a brutal and repressive dictator who murders their opposition who just happens to align politically with your views.

                    Sorry, that’s still not benevolent, it’s just a different flavour.