• theneverfox@pawb.social
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    3 days ago

    Can we have a third option, where we make sure everyone gets food housing and healthcare, we don’t destroy the planet, and we also don’t centralize everything?

    Like come on, we can deal with some inefficiency. Let’s focus on what’s important and solve the maze backwards

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      2 days ago

      One of the two alternatives shown in the post already did food, housing and healthcare back in 1970, and regarding not destroying the planet China is the current producer of 93% of Solar Panels and most electric batteries.

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        2 days ago

        Is the pay per post still 50 cents, or has the govt increased that?

        Get fucking real, China has solved none of the three you list. People still starve, housing just recently had a major economic impact, and while there are doctors everywhere working hard to fix people’s ailments, China’s hospital system in now incentivized to get repeat customers, not to fix the issues.

        China still has distinct classes for their classless government. People in China call the lowest class peasants still. While Xi talks with Putin about how he can live forever with the help of other people’s organs.

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          2 days ago

          Housing, healthcare and food access were solved in USSR, not China. China just saved 800mn people from poverty, clearly horrifying innit?

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            I dont believe they’ve done what you claim, mainly due to Hu Jintao saying that its not true. I’m sure they’ve brought back a lot of the middle class that was destroyed in the civil war, but there is still a huge peasant population in China that is very much in poverty.

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              When exactly did Hu Jintao say that it’s not true that 800 million Chinese have been uplifted from poverty?

              Civil war, you mean the Chinese civil war that happened over 70 years ago when China was a peasant kingdom instead of the #1 industrial producer in the world that it is nowadays? You seriously believe that the conditions in China haven’t gotten 2000% better over the past 70 years? For fuck’s sake, life expectancy in China before Mao was less than 30 years of age.