I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn’t realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community’s rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual
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Relatively few people are pro-Palestine but lots of people are anti-genocide
How do those two things differ in the context of this conflict? Most people believe Palestine has a right to exist.
Maybe I’m missing some context since the original comment is now deleted
You sleep alright at night? Gonna be peaceful when the end of your old age comes as it will for us all? Think real hard, you only have this one chance to be against evil. Use it. Or don’t, but you don’t get to pretend you didn’t know. If you have a god, he is not fooled.
Also you guys sound so dumb. “Oh this is so left! We need our own platform without so many lefties!!!” “Oh there is so much pro palestine propaganda, this sucks!”
Like dude maybe you are just in the minority of shitty people with shitty ideals? Maybe that’s why you can’t find peers without lurking into the truly dark parts of the internet. Maybe if you actually met your contemporaries with whom you agree in real life, you would be horrified. Maybe, just maybe, the problem is you. I know, what a hard concept for a fully grown adult to grasp. take all the time you need. So work on it or decide to never be an adult. Like I said, it’s not any of our problem, it’s yours to live with for eternity. If “being ok with dead kids” is your legacy, stop being a pussy and own it. Tell us, tell us you like it. Say it clearly. I can clearly state my beliefs without a hint of shame. Imagine what that must be like? It’s nice, you can get there too, but nobody’s gonna hold your hand. This post s probably the most help you will ever get. Good luck.
This I actually agree with. Most people who agree with me on this are very weird where I live – like almost exclusively the bad kind of christians. But do you think weirdness is a good basis for opinions?
Hey man, I talk to everyone, including IDF soldiers due to where I live. (popular holiday spot for Israelis) I do think that it’s worth reflecting upon why the people you meet irl with whom you agree seem like the wrong kind of religious zealots. I grew up crazy evangelical. Zealotry was all that I ever knew. Speaking ill of Israel never ever even crossed my mind until I was probably in my late 20s, that’s how strong the religious indoctrination and constant media propaganda is in the US. I was in a Southern Baptist Death Cult. They loved Israel, and the things that they said about Muslims I don’t want to repeat here, I’m sure it wasn’t an isolated case but the most loving grannies would let hellfire out of their eyes when the pastor was talking about the enemies of Israel. Religion is just too effective at manipulating one’s idea of right and wrong. Part of the reason I left is because I saw people who were clearly lost in darkness exulted to high positions in my church. It was some bs, and I was a teen so I had the inclination to rebel against BS. Thank God.
I don’t think weirdness is a good basis for opinions, I’m very weird in my way.
But as I said, if most of the people that you meet in real life who share your views on this give you the heebee jeebees, it’s at least worth entertaining the idea that your view has been fed to you by online narratives pushed by someone with an agenda.
That’s why it is so important to talk to real people. I know, it can be hard. I’m autistic and grew up way tf out in the sticks, like horror movie out in the sticks.
And, until I left and began meeting and talking with more people, I didn’t know that I was kinda racist, but I was. Because everyone I knew was, I didn’t know that it wasn’t normal.
So I guess keep talking, you know what is good and you know what is wrong. We are bombarded with media vying for our attention and opinions, but deep down, you know. Stay true to that.
Truth to be told, the people who actually share my view are the ones who never talk about those views, like I also don’t in real life. The silent majority. We know how flammable these issue are.
Why do I flap my mouth about it here then? Not sure, some combination of social media’s toxicity and the fact that Lemmy is absolutely filled with blatantly and exclusively pro-palestine stuff, making it hard to ignore. Also if you think somebody is wrong and you want to change their opinions, it makes more sense to talk about those opinions in the middle of the people who disagree with you instead of in your safe bubble where everybody already agrees.
Honestly that’s one thing I like about Lemmy, those conversations are much more possible here.
whats your reasoning for this?
I’ll save us all some time. They’re a huge Israel supporter and the majority of their comments from the past 2 weeks are zionist bullshit.
Also a weird post comparing the Kimmel cancelation to Roseanne’s, and saying Kimmel’s statement about kirk was vile.
im curious, but should there be an israeli-safespace on lemmy?
I don’t think there should.
Israel already has its safespace, it’s called the media.
how do you mean?
Israel proponents control Paramount, Reddit, Meta, CBS and now Tik Tok. What do YOU mean? What tf do you actually mean?
That sounds an awful like jews control the media
ZIONISTS.
Do you understand that this is a word with a different meaning from Judaism? Like, if I said “Theocratic-Christian”, is your first thought “Sounds like a conspiracy meant to smear all Christians.”? Or do you have the critical thinking skills to understand that there is more than one sect of any religious belief? Because the other option is that you are intelligent, but just like to bend words in order to score semantic victories while your soul withers under the weight of the horrors which you choose to defend. That can’t be it, I don’t think you’re an evil guy,
Jews have been here for thousands of years, half of my family was Jewish, everyone aside from my great-grandparents on one side died in the camps. We don’t control shit.
ZIONISTS are religious ethno-supremecist racists who have been around for roughly 100 years. My grandmother is older than Israel. And the outlets which I named are clearly and objectively controlled by ZIONIST interests. If you don’t like that, do something to change it instead of just pouting when others mention it.
If you hear Zionism, and conflate it with Judaism, that’s not anybody’s problem but yours.
They mean there’s already a lot of pro-israel sites.
they mean the big subreddits and tiktok and facebook.
sounds like a conspiracy
Yes: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/54394210?scrollToComments=true
If they want their own genocide denial safe space, they can create one. It may be tough, as I know they are more accustomed to moving into spaces where people already are, but I’m sure they can manage.
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Same answer. They can create a new comm, not settle an existing one.
If you’re asking whether that hypothetical comm should or should not exist? I don’t mind either way as long as it’s not used to pump out disinformation about the genocide.
do you think there should be one for Nazis?
That’s shit.just.works
no
Sorry, some trigger-happy mod removed my comment and I cannot remember what this was about.
Probably some common sense view about Israel vs Hamas that 80% of normal people agree with whereas 99% of Lemmy users are completely oblivious about.
This is a weird bubble.
you agreed with ikt’s decisions