Community description for ManufacturingConsent is “when the media decides who you are rooting for.” So, being banned for questioning their narrative strikes me as absurdly funny. I mean, I guess if the idea of the community is that geneva_convenience should decide whom you root for, that would track.

The post in question: https://piefed.ca/post/266435

(I pointed out that the Guardian was probably including the hostages who died after the attacks. This really bugged OP and led to a ban.)

I don’t really care for a remedy, seems a silly place. Just thought it was funny as heck.

(For what it’s worth, like most, I side with Palestine but I think being accurate lends credence to our cause.)

  • MyBrainHurts@piefed.caOP
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    Kidnapping civilians is unequivocally bad regardless of whether we think the kidnapper is on the right side of history.

    Being unable to acknowledge the wrongs committed by those whom we support is pretty damn horrifying in my book. To see the same willfully ignorant “america/trump/the church can do no wrong” attitude but on the Left breaks my heart.

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        Did you mean to respond to another comment or did you completely miss the point?

        Edit: to put it more politely… The entire above point is that rhe evil of Israel’s war does not change whether murdering and kidnapping civilians is wrong.

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          See this reinforces the removal you’re complaining about.

          The entire above point is that rhe evil of Israel’s war genocide and colonial project does not change whether murdering and kidnapping civilians is wrong.

          What you miss is at this point Israel has been ICE the entire time

          Do you not understand why going into a thread about bias in reporting to make Israel look good then blaming Palestinians and equating hamas to ice would be frowned upon?

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          Gotta love when people come in here acting like the innocent victim and then take their mask off in the comments.

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      Kidnapping civilians is unequivocally bad

      Really? We literally are forced to exist with taxpayer-funded institutions whose entire purpose is to kidnap civilians as part of their function to repress dissent - they are called police.

      Fyi, I am absolutely conflating the institution of policing with that of Israel - it’s perfectly justified as they are both colonialist and white supremacist creations.

      Besides all that, Israel - like all colonialist entities - have, since it’s invention, made little secret of the fact that they de facto make zero distinction between “civilians” and “combatants.” Therefore, I see no need to hold the Palestinian resistance to the high standards that white liberalism have refused to apply to Israel for decades now - especially when the crimes (if they can even be called that) the Palestinian resistance have committed is downright microscopic in comparison to those perpetrated by Israel and it’s benefactors for more than half a century now.

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        Just so I understand, it’s totally cool and heck, probably good for Hamas to murder as many Israelis as they can but simultaneously, we are embarrassed about accurately counting the killed?

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          about accurately counting the killed?

          What are you counting so “accurately,” Clyde? Do you have an “accurate” tally of all the Israelis the IDF slaughtered on Oct 7 because murdering Palestinians is far more important to them than keeping their own people alive?

          Just so I understand,

          Don’t feign ignorance… seems to me that you know exactly what you are doing here.

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            What are you counting so “accurately,”

            If you look at the actual post you’re commenting on, you should be able yo figure it out, I have faith in you Bob!

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              Then you sould have no problem providing us with these “accurate” numbers of yours, shouldn’t you?

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                Again, if you uhhh, look at the post to which you are referring, you’ll find them! I still believe in you!

                If you really are having difficulties reading the post etc, just let me know.

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                  Why do you insist on talking like the most insufferable Reddit loser imaginable?

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                    Holy shit kid, I was going to give an actual response but then, good God, read your comment history. You seem determined to be miserable at people.

                    I hope you are more pleasant in real life and/or things get better for you.

                    Take care.

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                    In the post, the thing about which you are commenting, there’s the death total provided by OP. There are hostages, taken in the attack who died as a result of being taken hostage.

                    I provided both in the comment in this post.

                    I have no idea what accurate tallies you are demanding or what they would have to do with the Guardians headline. Are you a bot?

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          cool for hamas to kill as many zionazi rape cultist baby murdering monsters as they can

          Yes. Dead Nazis are always a good thing, and it’s extra cool when their victims do it.

          accurately

          Says the lying pieve if shit nazi

          Cute to see the mask slip, though.

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              Do you still remember being human? I’m always curious about that with Nazis. What would the human you were have said to the thing you are now?

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      To see the same willfully ignorant “america/trump/the church can do no wrong” attitude but on the Left breaks my heart.

      it’s always been there lol