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  • You are fighting a strawman, no one is arguing “Israel = good”

    The point is that killing civilians is bad, even if done by people fighting facist Israel

    That religious fundamentalism is bad, even if done by people fighting facist Israel

    You are wrongfully argumenting that criticizing warcrimes on one side amounts to supporting warcrimes of the other side.

    You can be against starving of civilians, against genocide, against shooting civilians, against holding civilians hostage, against religious fundamentalism because those things are bad tools from an ethical point of view, no matter who uses those tools.

    You are saying those tools are only bad, if israel use them, not when Hama’s uses them.

    You are saying everyone who is against killing civilians IN GENERAL is a nazi

    You are exactly proving my point.


  • See thats exactly the flamebait.

    There is a war between two religious fundamentalist parties.

    One of them is clearly worse than the other, opressing them and doing horrible warcrimes.

    One can be against the horrifying killing, bombing and starving of civilians by a right wing religious fundamentalist government while STILL be against the kidnappig and shooting of civilians by a religious fundamentalist organization.

    You making up a false dilemma by throwing everyone who has a more complex view on things than “this one religious fundamentalist group is in the right with everything and the other one needs to be completely annihilated” Into the the Nazi bin.

    This is clearly not argumentation in good faith.

    Sure one side is clearly worse, but that doesn’t make the other one untouchable or not to be criticized.

    criticizing the scewed media in Germany, actively going on anti-israel demonstrations, demanding from your government to stop sending weapons and instead initiate tariffs on this far right warcrime nation BUT STILL not defending the shooting of civilians on a music festival or kidnapping of them, is a valid position, it may not be your position, but calling those position “pro-genocide” or “clearly Nazis/fascists” is just plainly wrong.

    You can be activly fighting against genocide WHILE STILL not fighting for a radical fundamentalist religious group.

    You can fight for the people, their rights, their lives while not supporting their ideology.

    You making a “either you are 100% with us, or you are a facist” argument is either plain stupid or ragebait and surley neither dialectic nor materialistic.


  • You actually not complied to the rules oft the community. Just because on .ml everyone who doesn’t fully support hamas gets labeled as Nazi and then banned for rule 1 (racism) doesn’t mean you can expect to call obvious abusive bullshit on other instances and get away with it.

    And just to be clear: Israel doing horrific warcrimes and need to be stopped. German weapons supplies are a disgraces 21% for the AfD are fucking bad.

    We “german lemmings” are with you on that, we just don’t accept your lie talk about being “pro-genocide” if we don’t fully support kidnappings of civilians from the other religious group in the conflict. We are sick of idiots accusing us of being Nazis while some of us live in fear that actual Nazis beat us up when we walk out of the door because we are on the spectrum, Jews, Muslims, have long hair, got outed as communists, or even being a supporter of the fkin green party.