Party sticks to its guns on healthcare and says it’s willing to hold out – much to the delight of its progressive supporters

When he sat down to talk about the US government shutdown with reporters from a closely read political newsletter this week, Chuck Schumer sounded as if he was relishing his standoff with the Republicans.

“Every day gets better for us,” he told Punchbowl News. As the shutdown got under way, Schumer explained, the Republican part believed that Democrats would quickly fold and vote to reopen the government, but instead they had stuck to their guns for a week and a half, demanding an array of concessions on healthcare and other issues.

Outrage followed from Republicans, who printed out the Senate minority leader’s remark on posters and condemned it before press conferences. The shutdown has prompted federal agencies to close or curtail operations nationwide, and forced hundreds of thousands of employees to stay home without immediate pay. Schumer, Republicans argued, was being callous.

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    16 hours ago

    I think the Democratic leadership learned from the last debt ceiling debacle, where they did whatever the GOP and Trump wanted and got pelted with figurative rotten eggs by everyone who was paying attention.

    The Obamacare subsidies are an easy hill to die on. They are available to anyone who makes less than a high middle class income, and for a great many Americans, they are the absolutely only way they can afford health insurance.

    A self-declaredly populist movement like MAGA should know better than making health care unaffordable to millions to pay for billionaire tax cuts and corruption.

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      15 hours ago

      I think the Democratic leadership learned from the last debt ceiling debacle

      No, they dont have the backing of a biased DNC anymore. So they’re trying to paint themselves as progressive warriors.

      Newsom was the most noticable, but Schumer and Jeffries are doing the same thing. They realized they’re actually going to have competitive primaries, and that negotiating with trump virtually guarantees they lose their next primary.

      It’s pure self preservation, they still need replaced. And we absolutely can not afford to keep them in office, let alone leadership positions.

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        The most cowardly creature on the planet is an American politician - every last one of them. They are feral animals, and the only thing they understand is fear, which is why they attempt to use it on us so often. They think we are just as cowardly as they are.

        So put the pressure on them, and they will back down every single time, and if they don’t, then pressure them harder, and then you vote them out, and if they don’t leave, you CRUSH them mercilessly.

        These people work for US, and that is not rhetoric, it is literally the truth. They need to know that we expect them to do what they are told, because if we are forced to do their jobs for them, it will be very, very bad for them.

        The biggest losers are Schmuck Schumer and Jeffries, who are at least 50% responsible for Trump regaining office. They sat back and let the MAGAs steal the election right before their eyes, and then immediately declared it “Fair & Square,” with no investigation at all.

        Sure, the guy has cheated at literally EVERYTHING he has ever done for his entire life, but the ONLY time in his life that he didn’t cheat was the one election that would literally keep him out of prison for the rest of his life? How does that make any sense at all. We KNOW this guy extremely well, and we are supposed to believe that he did any honorably and in good faith. The Dem leadership may be that stupid, or weak, or scared, but I’m not.

        If they were doing their most basic jobs of defending America from its enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, they could have had Trump and his henchman arrested the moment that Biden was sworn in, but they let those jackals run free, and steal the next election.

        IF we regain our country, we obviously have to crush, purge, and imprison MAGA Nazis for their crimes, but we should also ruthlessly purge these simpering weak ass Democrats who didn’t do their jobs, and ran away from those mean old scary MAGA twerps when we needed them most.

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        I’m not nearly that cynical about literally everything the Dems do, but I’m absolutely cool with replacing the 70 year olds. (Schumer is 74.)

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          Outside of Bernie, they relied on the DNC squashing primary challengers, then being the only option in the general.

          That’s why all the big neoliberals are putting on these acts, they’re more scared of midterms than Republicans are. They need to suck up all the oxygen so real progressives don’t heard, and billionaire owned.media is happy to help.

          Quick edit:

          And for the record, Bernie needs primaried too, everyone does. Healthy primaries is how we make sure we win generals.

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            Healthy primaries is how we make sure we win generals.

            If we can learn just this one lesson from the last presidential, we will be in so much better shape.

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        I love how often commenters try to pass off wild speculation with zero evidence as though it were empirically proven scientific fact

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      The Obamacare Subsidies are Tax Credits. MAGAs give tax credits to any old Sociopathic Oligarchs just for asking, yet they can’t allow one for American citizens so they can have HEALTH CARE?

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        Billionaire owned media will never call an actual populist a populist…

        They want to keep it a dirty word, when it literally just means putting the average citizen’s needs above the needs of the wealthiest.

        If we don’t have populism, the alternative is an oligarchy. Those are the two ends of the scale, we can get something near the middle, but it at least has to be fair.

        If the wealthiest have an advantage, they’ll never stop accumulating wealth.

        And wealth is finite, for them to accumulate more, they got to take it from someone else.

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      MAGA is a populist movement. Actually representing the will of the people is not required to meet the definition of “populist”.