This is not about me or the others from the flotilla. There are thousands of Palestinians, hundreds of whom are children, who are being held without trial right now, and many of them are most likely being tortured, says Greta Thunberg.
What we have been through is only a small, small part of what Palestinians have experienced. On the walls of our prison cells, we saw bullet holes with bloodstains and messages carved into the walls by Palestinian prisoners who had been there before us.
When I’m about to get off the boat, there are a bunch of police officers waiting for me. They grab me, pull me to the ground, and throw an Israeli flag over me.
Greta Thunberg describes how she is dragged to a paved area fenced in with iron fences. This is a protracted scene that lasts for over six hours, according to Greta, and is confirmed by several participants in the flotilla that Aftonbladet talks to.
It was kind of dystopian. I saw maybe 50 people sitting in a row on their knees with handcuffs and their foreheads against the ground. They dragged me to the opposite side from where the others were sitting, and I had the flag around me the whole time. They hit and kicked me.
They moved me very brutally to a corner that I was turned towards. ‘A special place for a special lady’, they said. And then they had learned ‘Lilla hora’ (Little Wh0re) and ‘Hora Greta’ (Wh0re Greta) in Swedish, which they repeated all the time.
The flag was placed so that it would touch me. When it fluttered and touched me, they shouted ‘Don’t touch the flag’ and kicked me in the side. After a while, my hands were tied with cable ties, very tightly. A bunch of guards lined up to take selfies with me while I was sitting like that.
She is tough as nails.
She’s basically modern Joan of Arc who died when she was only 19. Joan of Arc was graped. She was shunned. She was executed. But she believed in affecting change to better all lives.
Somehow throughout human history those who’re called “whores” never seem to be monsters. Wonder why.
Honestly want her to be the Secretary General of the UN. Someone needs to push our international government bodies to be more assertive when dealing with human rights.
She’ll get there. There’s still tempering to be done that comes with more experience and age which benefits and strengthens a political position.
I look forward to it.
I put zero weight in age. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Age can be a bad thing when older generations got us here.
You’re also completely ignoring politics experience, Which is a real world requirement in order to actually get shit done. (Let’s not even talk about emotional maturity and making decisions purely on emotion instead of rationale)
If you are not mature enough to learn how to work well with others then you’re not going to get anything done because you require the contributions, help and cooperation of people you may disagree with in order to move your agenda forward. Especially on a world stage.
I’m not talking about old ass people in their 70s here. I’m talking about people 30-60. Who should be the ones in office in my opinion.
Older and younger than that and effectiveness seems to drop off pretty quickly.
No I didnt. Experienced and morally wrong just means they know but don’t care. And you want to talk maturity. A mature person wouldn’t play around with others lives so casually. 18 and right about human rights and equality, is no different than 100 and also right. But young and wrong just means that individual needs guidance and wisdom. A 100/80/60/40 year old and wrong. When we know particular things. We know universal Healthcare is the only reasonable way to keep your population healthy but we don’t because the wealthy political officials don’t care. Universal child care. Renewable energy. Income inequality. On and on. The older generations have proven they don’t care.
40… Is not old my friend. You do realize millennials are entering 40 right? The problem are the old fucks (60-80) that are stuck in their political power ways.
Ya know, a generation that largely supports everything you’re supporting.
30-60 is a great age range for both maturity, ability to navigate the landscape, and generationally relevant. It’s weird here because you’re preaching to the choir while also shitting on the choir…?
Side note: You seem to be assigning meaning to my words that I’m not providing. I’m not in support of old political figures who are stuck in their ways and refuse to drop power because of their corruption. I’m in support of getting people into these positions that can effectively enact change. And I believe the people that can effectively enact change are those that are able to navigate the landscape and bridge the gap that we currently have.
We both want the same thing but the difference seems to be rational versus (ironically) emotions.
I’ll agree that we both are fare from the kind of individuals that would let millions die simply because a political land needed to be navigated.
My position is simply pretending as if those in power are doing everything in their ability to emancipate humanity, is the problem. The very same people who created this mess or sat bye while undue pain was caused are your heros? If you’re old with good and beneficial ideas? Definitely, get in politics! If you’ve been in politics for 40 years and haven’t been anti apartheid/genicide/colonization the whole time, then goodbye.
Age can be bad thing when people making decisions are old enough that they won’t have to deal with the consequences of their decisions. Climate policy being a prime example.
Age can also be a bad thing when people making decisions aren’t mature enough to make a decision rationally instead of emotionally.
This swings both ways. Older people can be less effective at making decisions and younger people can also be less effective at making decisions. For different reasons.
There is a nice sweet spot in the middle from 30-60 where people tend to be pretty good at making decisions while also bridging generational and cultural gaps.
This. They honestly don’t care until birth rates declines and they realize there’s not going to be enough poor people around to keep the pyramid scheme going just ~20 more years.
Can’t wait to see you let your household be ran by a toddler if age means nothing to you.
You might think that’s an extreme example, but it highlights the same problem. Until you are fully mature (20-25) you tend to lack in areas that mature humans are capable. That’s the bar, that’s where the floor starts. Some people get there earlier than others. Some people get there later than others.
After that point comes tempering and experience. When your decisions can affect millions of other people, it’s expected that you have the experience, maturity and temperament to make good rational decisions without being overtaken by your emotions.
Younger people are more likely to be overtaken by their emotions and make irrational decisions. Maturity and experience is an expectation.
You’re not going to make a 15-year a UN secretary, or even a 22 year old, it doesn’t mean this person can’t start working their way there and gaining experience with that in mind.
Lol when a toddler says 2+2=4 I say good job that is correct. But when a middle age man (I’m guessing) jumps on a comment thread and keeps trying to tell me 2+2=5, I call them out more strongly. I would 100% trust a 15 year old over current leadership. At least the 15 year old can hide behind not knowing and can be moved by the plees of the disenfranchised. António Guterres is old enough and powerful enough to lift millions of people up but he doesn’t… Why not? It’s because he’s been brought up in a system that directly benefiting him over others. And yes I 100% would vote younger individuals to be the head. Doesn’t mean they can’t still be advised by people that know the ends and out of the old ways.
What exactly does that mean?
Older generations created the problem. Expecting them to fix the society they built is a fools errand. Even the most progressive older generations aren’t willing to emancipate all of humanity.
Yeah she is. She’s hella brave.