• Horsecook@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    This isn’t a clever gotcha.

    The hypothetical future majority that would be treating minorities badly would be a different group that the majority that’s supposed to be treating minorities badly now.

    You’d want to look at how minorities are treated in the countries the immigrants are coming from to predict future behavior. The answer is usually going to be “quite a bit worse, actually.”

    Ultimately, the immigrants are coming because they think the treatment of minorities in the new country is still better than being a majority in the old country. No one picks up and leaves because they believe it’s going to make their life shittier.

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      8 hours ago

      For some people, it’s not the discrimination, its job opportunities, economic factors, and sometimes political factors.

      My family is Han Chinese, we wouldn’t really get “racial discrimination” in mainland China like ever, since its a racially homogenous society for the most part, except maybe sometimes regional discrimination, that aren’t really that bad. BUT, its very difficult to get jobs in China, the jobs you do get sucked, yes it’s even worse than the US.

      The US does have a lot of discrimination, but if you can just endure that, everything else would likely be better. Just stay in blue cities, and its fine. I don’t think I can ever go to any red states or red towns in the US, those terrify me.

      Edit: Also note, we did not come during this admin, we were here for more than a decade.

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      8 hours ago

      As a minority immigrant who is a majority in his country I left fully knowing I’d have to deal with some amount of racism and discrimination, but the money saved could buy me a better lifestyle and an early retirement back home.

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      9 hours ago

      You’d want to look at how minorities are treated in the countries the immigrants are coming from to predict future behavior. The answer is usually going to be “quite a bit worse, actually.”

      It doesn’t work like that, unless all immigrants came from the same place, as a homogenous group.

      I know, some immigrants are just as xenophobic as the “original” inhabitants of their new home (e.g. my mom), but never in the same way as it was in their former country.

      But emigrating in itself means a desire for change; a desire to change.


      I think it’s a good gotcha. It says: what are you really afraid of? That you’re going to be treated just as badly as you are treating minorities?

      That’s what this is about, not any hypothetical future situation where $MINORITY becomes the majority. That’s just thinking in the same terms of paranoia the xenophobes are thinking in.