I’ve known this was a thing since GM first got sued.
I knew every manufacturer was doing it since there’s too much money to be made.
I want a new car but I’m sticking to my 2010 Honda until it dies… Which might be awhile!
I just hope it lasts until the FTC and Congress do something about this. Unlikely though.
I need to reseach whatever I want as a replacement to hope I can just yank a fuse to kill the cellular connection. Then never go to a dealer for service.
The only computers any car I own have are running ignition, fuel injection, and sometimes transmission shift solenoids. Looks like I have to keep it that way.
Video;DW summary?
All modern cars collect unbelievably private info from you such as sexual activities, contacts, and innocuous driving habits (a pet cat coming to greet you as you get home triggering a near collision sensor, which is recorded and sent to insurance companies jacking up your rates tremendously). It is perhaps the most privacy invasive object a modern human can own, besides a smartphone.
The only way to avoid it is to find a way to deactivate the ability for the car to phone home information (sometimes via pulling a fuse), or by using an older car from before user tracking was viable and the norm (generally I’d say the cutoff is 2009, but around that era you’d still need to double check, and it must not be an OnStar equipped car).
Yeah I want a fancy car but I’m concerned about how hard it is to stop it phoning home.
That doesn’t stop car manufacturers from selling data from literally every other make/model and hacking up my rates.
You can’t.
They have integrated the telematics so deeply that theyre not even a separate part.
You could turn off all internet.connectivity, but so many people would not tolerate living without the conveniences they like. No caplays, remote start, etc.
I got carplay with a 3rd party screen and audio from a 3.5mm jack in my old ass Honda.
I’ll survive with some convenience.
Me, in a 2002 with a bluetooth speaker jammed above the ashtray/cig lighter because the tape deck is worn out: The fuck is “carplay?” I miss my tape deck.
Only costing you money if you’re a bad driver.
If a car pulls out in front of you suddenly requiring you to slam on your brakes to avoid a collision, that sudden braking is recording, but the context for it is not. The insurance company only sees a driver that’s slamming on their brakes, which makes them higher risk in their eyes.
Even good drivers are affected.
You’re making the mistake of microfocusing on a specific anecdote. They can account for that in the big picture. Good and bad drivers will both brake suddenly in a situation like that. Only bad drivers are braking suddenly because they’re following too closely or not paying attention.
Personally I would never assume a for-profit insurance company would ever not take the chance to raise rates and lower risk, but that’s just me.
I live in an area with a lot of aggressive and shitty drivers. I would trigger any number of negative statistics several times a day thanks to it just being how it is to drive around here. But I have an old ‘11 car that doesn’t tattle on me, so it isn’t a problem.
Living in an area with a lot of shitty drivers would put you at high risk for a collision, which is also a valid reason to raise your rates. Thing is, insurance companies typically assume youre a bad driver, or at least a mediocre driver. They calculate your risk based on what they know. If you show them you’re a good driver they’ll give you a discount.
If you show them you’re a good driver they’ll give you a discount.
The “good driver discount” is laughable at best.
No, because you learn how to drive and avoid shitty drivers. Hard braking is part of it.
So slow braking is more dangerous?
Are you deliberately being dense?
