• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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    5 months ago

    Some of us live in countries that don’t really have dangerous wild life and cats have been allowed outside for over 1000 years.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah I always found the argument absurd as I live on a paved over rectangle with a few square feet of grass my cat likes to poop on while he hangs out with the local squirrels. He is far too lazy to hunt anything, he killed a mouse that was actually inside the house many many years ago but has been a pacifist since. He is 15 he literally wants to sit in the sun and do nothing.

      Of course there are some cats who will hunt, and their owners should not allow that. But the blanket statements about environmental impacts, while they cool their house with AC, burn fossil fuels to heat food and go to work, order crap on Amazon…just lacks perspective.

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        5 months ago

        Cats don’t always show you what they kill. I had a roommate that kept letting my cats out. Never saw them kill anything. Then my neighbor told me about how they were little murder machines while I was out at work. Tried taking out a whole near of baby birds.

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          5 months ago

          Bullshit and hearsay.

          Those houses you both live in, how many animals were displaced to build them? How many died so your house can exist? You blame cats for the misery we as humans do to species of this planet. Sad

          • michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            This is bullshit logic. We as adult humans already exist and have little choice about national housing policy. We can however choose not to contribute to suburban sprawl OR murder cats roaming the neighborhood whacking the wildlife. We can also choose not to have 12 children who will need space too. Not being able to do everything is a poor reason not to do anything.

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              5 months ago

              You can choose to boycott the US, yet it will change nothing on capitalism existing, btw do u live in the US ? Because you are contributing in the most problematic country in history, please “choose” to leave the US

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          5 months ago

          I have cameras, and I work from home. He literally does not leave a fenced-in rectangle. I know for a fact he doesn’t kill anything.

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            5 months ago

            It very well could be true. But I also don’t really think you’ve been able to watch your cat every moment of his outdoor life to know he literally never goes anywhere and has never killed anything. My cats are indoor only in a tiny apartment and I frequently can’t figure out where they are, even when I worked from home.

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                5 months ago

                Because i live on the 4th floor of an apartment complex… i guess anything is possible, but sneaking out several doors and back would be impressive.

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        5 months ago

        As a cat owner who works in the animal industry, you’re suffering from ‘my personal experience is reality-itis’.

        You can’t ‘not allow’ your cat to hunt. The only chance you have is to keep it inside. Your old cat likely doesn’t hunt outside but to think it killed a single mouse it’s entire life, is delusional.