So uh… Anyone else feel like your heart is like…lighter, this week?
I was hope scrolling the first couple days after the election. But now it’s back to doom with…
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Miller as CoS
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Rumblings of escalation in Iran
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Rumors of moves being made to make Jan6 look like a slap fight
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Yes, definitely. But it feels like some people are already trying to drop pellets of hail on my feather-light heart
This is what reddit on rif was for me. I had carefully selected communities that made me happy.
And that’s why they murdered rif.
hope scrolling on twitter… i don’t think so.
Ah yeah, I didn’t pay attention to what platform the OOP was using
Yeah best you could do is schandenfreud scrolling there. And even that’s a stretch.
Now you’re just delusional. It will wear off some time between now and January 3, 2027.
You’re not helping and I suspect you know that.
Everyone needs to block people who have nothing helpful to say while trying to make us feel like idiots for having hope. It seems obvious to me that there’s a reason they’re doing this and it certainly isn’t well intentioned.
Or, I’m pushing 70 years old and have had my hopes crushed so many times, that I feel the need to warn people about what is not going to happen.
You’re actively trying to leave a feeling of despair and hopelessness for the next generation. You say it like it’s a public service too.
70 should be old enough to know cynicism isn’t wisdom. It’s one thing to encourage people to always temper optimism with caution, it’s another to spend one’s life indistinguishable from an edgy adolescent.
Exactly.
If you’re 70 you have experienced the Sovietunion falling apart, relatively peacefully. Biggest miracle in recent history. All it took was a somewhat reasonable leader (Gorbachev) coming after a series of senile nightmares. Eerily similar to another country today. There’s always hope.
Most of my issue with your comment though is that it doesn’t really offer solutions or courses of action. It’s just doomsaying for its own sake.
Yeah, the doomsayers are already pissing on my parade.
I guess you’re right though, we should all go back to bitter cynicism, despair and despondency. Things were much better that way… 🙄
Edit: username checks out, by the way
The tankies are pissed, this makes their agitation process harder
Yeah, they’ve been coming out in force. There was a delay thankfully, so we got to enjoy a couple days of peace and relief after the election. But after that they’ve just been swarming.
I’m thinking I might take a lemmy detox soon, until the gremlins crawl back into their holes (we’ll see them again next electoral season, of course).
I feel you completely. I’ve changed my thought process a bit though. If a user makes any doomer comment, I call them out and then block them. It’s already started to help. These users are significant in numbers but I still think they’re in the minority.
Yeah, I do think there’s value in calling them out so that others can see and hopefully more people will learn how to spot them and see them for what they are.
But it always seems to lead to a shit show of them recycling the same old stale fallacies and personal attacks. Maybe I’m getting better at parrying them more effectively, but it still burns me out after a while. And sometimes they say things that really get under my skin.
I’m concerned that if I simply block them and don’t read their response, then they’ll craft it to make me look like an idiot/asshole to anyone who doesn’t understand the context of the situation. So I parry and riposte until I’m confident that anyone reading knows who the troll is
I always thought pretty much this exact same way. I just cannot do it anymore though. I gotta block them, and even though I agree that it can lead to a lack of challenges to their doomspreading, it may be better for us as a community if we just block liberally. The mods often side with them and I really have no time to tear them down point by point anyhow. 2020 honestly broke me on even trying to do that. People like that will ignore everything they cannot deny and come back with a personal attack, as you said. If enough people block these users, maybe their campaigns will start to feel futile and they’ll either stop or dial it down.
Josh Johnson is worth your time, probably. He’s a good comic, and thoughtful. The man discusses present politics in his way. I like comedy in my despair laden news. I miss the Colbert monologues for this reason.
Josh though, pretty amazing. He hasn’t made it to the results yet, but that should drop in YT this week.
If you liked getting news from Colbert, you might also like John Oliver. I think he’s still making videos?
I’ll look into Josh Johnson though, thanks!
Oliver, ofc. Wonder if Oliver regrets becoming a US Citizen?
I think we’ve all seen his Church episode (praise be). His attempted, perfectly legal bribe, of Clarance Thomas. In his case, I think he’s hiding real journalism behind satire.
In his case, I think he’s hiding real journalism behind satire.
I didn’t know that was a question
Or remember what it was like when Obama won his first term…
Tons of irrational exuberance. One major healthcare bill passed, followed by 8 years of just another status quo president.
The weird part was Obama was essentially a moderate conservative. And yet, his blackness triggered them so hard, that didn’t work for them.
Just because it turned out to be a disappointment doesn’t mean the exuberance was irrational. And that certainly doesn’t mean we shouldn’t feel optimistic right now. In fact that very thing was discussed in the article I got this screenshot from.
Here are some more:
There are ways to engage with this rationally and productively, in a grounded and balanced way. And there are ways not to.
And honestly, I’m getting tired of all this bitterness and doomerism that seems to be coming out in force after the recent successes in the election. I already had enough of my own bitterness and cynicism over the past two years. Can you let me feel hopeful for once?
Maybe it’s just amplified on this community. I don’t usually post here; is it always like this?
But assuming you’re being genuine and you actually do care and that you’re just feeling hopeless, that’s valid. But consider that spreading your hopelessness and despair like this can function as a sort of psychological contagion, and if you dampen enough people’s spirits then you can really start to extinguish the excitement and momentum that we’re building towards possibly doing something different this time.
So like… if you don’t want to be a part of the problem then be a part of the solution, or at least sit this one out on the sidelines. Because a favorable wind is rising, and we don’t need you rending holes in our sails at this key moment in time.
If you want to contribute to making sure we don’t repeat the mistakes of the past, then maybe you could help advocate for choosing different congressional leadership.
I think it would be easier not to feel the cold rain if Day 1 wasn’t a 24hr wall of “Jeffries House Soeaker!!!” “Schumer says” spam clogging the attempted hope scroll. Didn’t we just vote against that, what is even happening, I thought progress won, but…
And here we are.
Wait have you missed the whole conversation around “No Schumer, No Jeffries” and “Choose someone else!”?
It’s mainly a niche Reddit and Lemmy convo. Schumer is breaking through such that my sense of the news pulse right now is that replacement may be allowed. But not Jeffries. That appears to be a wall.
I’ll take the victories we can achieve and I’ll set my sights forward to the day we can achieve the rest.
Ousting Schumer as SML in itself would be huge. And Jeffries’ seat is up for reelection every two years.
No way dude. January 2nd is gonna be like Christmas eve.
Except Jeffries is a done deal no matter what we want, and Schumer will probably be in as well. So stop your hope scrolling.
Can you also tell me what the weather will be like on my birthday next year, and tomorrow’s winning lotto numbers?
Fair. People are never 100%, on anything, except death. Even so, the odds of rolling a seven with two six-sided dice remain the highest odds.
Medicine would not exist without rolling the dice on the highest odds.
We kinda do this on the daily, as humans.
the odds of rolling a seven with two six-sided dice remain the highest odds.
Even so, expecting to roll a seven every time would be bad math
And placing all your money on snake eyes would also be bad math.
