I’ll go spell it out because people missing the point can’t possibly find it otherwise: The criticism expressed by the image (which iirc is either a direct quote from the show or was originally about a very similar issue) is not about who is for or against abortions, it’s about who shapes public discourse for a variety of issues, which tends to have a clear bias. Which then shapes the opinion of everyone.
With abortion in particular it probably originates more in churches than tv panels, but churches aren’t exactly known for gender diversity in leaders.
Women votes for trump. 44 points.
Roughly equal representation on health, education, etc in journalism.
But yeah keep on screeching men are the issue. It’s definitely working and not creating not pissed off men and little tate-er tots following him on yt.
The shitting on men will continue until men vote correctly. It’s like watching the US spend trillions bombing Afghanistan.
Just impossible to tear down hierarchy without shitting on half the population I guess.
Did you miss this part? Let me post it again for you just in case:
The criticism expressed by the image (which irc is either a direct quote from the show or was originally about a very similar issue) is not about who is for or against abortions, it’s about who shapes public discourse for a variety of issues, which tends to have a clear bias. Which then shapes the opinion of everyone.
Thanks, but you’ve already made it clear that your opinion is uninformed trash and you’ve got nothing to add to the conversation. I appreciate the double-down though!
I’m the last person that will ever screech men are the issue because I hate nothing more than blanket generalizations. I do think the actual issue behind a lot of the sexism women face is male culture (depending on specific peers, of course, but common enough that I’ve seen it everywhere). Not quite toxic masculinity (though that’s part of it), but normalization of behaviour I would say is clearly wrong (most commonly some forms of sexual harrassment). There’s a disconnect there and I agree that saying “men are the issue” isn’t going to solve any of it.
But this image is still not saying “men are the issue”. I also think it’s hard to argue against it (or for it) with stats, since it’s about the dynamics of specific topics. Your gender or sex do not really change how much you are affected by idk general economic policy (effects of wage gap aside, but that’s its own issue and not inherent to anything). But for example abortion disproportionately affects women, so women should be overrepresented in related discussions. Similarly if you want to discuss, say, racial profiling, maybe you should actually include people that would be affected and not just the majority ethnicity.
And yes, in both those examples wealth is also a factor. But we can start with the things that are easier to control for - just in general trying to represent as much of society as possible, while focusing on the groups most affected by the particular issue.
I’ll go spell it out because people missing the point can’t possibly find it otherwise: The criticism expressed by the image (which iirc is either a direct quote from the show or was originally about a very similar issue) is not about who is for or against abortions, it’s about who shapes public discourse for a variety of issues, which tends to have a clear bias. Which then shapes the opinion of everyone.
With abortion in particular it probably originates more in churches than tv panels, but churches aren’t exactly known for gender diversity in leaders.
30% of the congress are women.
Women votes for trump. 44 points. Roughly equal representation on health, education, etc in journalism.
But yeah keep on screeching men are the issue. It’s definitely working and not creating not pissed off men and little tate-er tots following him on yt.
The shitting on men will continue until men vote correctly. It’s like watching the US spend trillions bombing Afghanistan.
Just impossible to tear down hierarchy without shitting on half the population I guess.
Did you miss this part? Let me post it again for you just in case:
What part of less than a median 6 point gap in representation on social issues in journalism are you not understanding?
The fact that it has nothing to do with the pundits they put on TV since they aren’t journalists, but rather think-tank political operatives?
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A simple “I’m sorry, you’re right” would be appropriate.
But I guess that’s a bit too much introspection and skepticism, huh?
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Thanks, but you’ve already made it clear that your opinion is uninformed trash and you’ve got nothing to add to the conversation. I appreciate the double-down though!
I’m the last person that will ever screech men are the issue because I hate nothing more than blanket generalizations. I do think the actual issue behind a lot of the sexism women face is male culture (depending on specific peers, of course, but common enough that I’ve seen it everywhere). Not quite toxic masculinity (though that’s part of it), but normalization of behaviour I would say is clearly wrong (most commonly some forms of sexual harrassment). There’s a disconnect there and I agree that saying “men are the issue” isn’t going to solve any of it.
But this image is still not saying “men are the issue”. I also think it’s hard to argue against it (or for it) with stats, since it’s about the dynamics of specific topics. Your gender or sex do not really change how much you are affected by idk general economic policy (effects of wage gap aside, but that’s its own issue and not inherent to anything). But for example abortion disproportionately affects women, so women should be overrepresented in related discussions. Similarly if you want to discuss, say, racial profiling, maybe you should actually include people that would be affected and not just the majority ethnicity.
And yes, in both those examples wealth is also a factor. But we can start with the things that are easier to control for - just in general trying to represent as much of society as possible, while focusing on the groups most affected by the particular issue.