I respect people’s right to use apple products, but please stop asserting “privacy”, big corps doesn’t give a shit.

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    4 days ago

    @DeathByBigSad Big corpus care about MARKETING privacy as a sizeable portion of the market makes purchases based on perception of security. Personally security isn’t very important to me. If anything I might be more likely to purchase something if I believe it to be insecure thereby making it easier for me to hack it and do what I want with it.

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    Comparatively they are better. Its a duopoly in terms of mobile OSs and one is made by a company who mines data and sells ads as its core. The other sells hardware and subscriptions.

    I use linux and I wish for a full featured marketable linux phone someday that can compete but with privacy they absolutely beat google.

    I have never owned an iphone amd I am currently debating on getting a pixel to move to gOS.

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    6 days ago

    I hate the term sideloading. It’s a made-up propaganda word to make it seem scary or wrong to install software on your device. All in the name of corporate profits.

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      It’s like “jaywalking” oooh oh no don’t “jay” walk, don’t “side” load; conform to our business machines! Your natural existence and free movements are an inconvenience to us therefore you have to change.

      Or whatever bullshit–however they couch it.

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      6 days ago

      Yea, who are google and apple to tell us what to do with OUR devices that WE OWN anyways?

      I will never buy a smartphone(or a computer) that I can’t replace the stock OS on, because the transaction for me and the device maker should end when I buy their device, period.

      The entire business model of selling me a device only to then extract the maximum possible amount of data points, sell that data to fuck-knows-who(compromising my privacy, and possibly safety), and maximizing targeted ads to attempt to manipulate me is beyond absurd.

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        Ironically I own a Google device, but only to use an operating system that respects me and my choices. If Google was just providing device trees for their new phones…

        Due to our favourite kind of software (banking apps) I am unable to use another kind of operating system at this point.

        Also I don’t sideload. I install software on a computer that I own, because I paid actual money for it.

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    5 days ago

    I use an iPhone simply because I refuse to use google services any longer, not because I’m delusional about apple caring about privacy.

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    6 days ago

    Yeah, I use lineage with microg…and it’s been tough… I had to deal with several government apps in order to start a new job and guess what? None of them work…I had to use my wife’s phone to get my new ID… I’m a teacher and I have to use government apps to deal with student’s absences…that Does not work either…basically anything that relys on Brazilian government app to authenticate something is not going to work. I tried to use the website…guess again…it does not work! One can’t export an ID from the website…I had been dealing with banking apps without much trouble…but this ID thing is terrible! How come you can only do stuff using an app and not using the website!?

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    Once my GrapheneOS phone goes out of service, I may just go back to flip phones. I actually kind of hate smartphones and their corrosive effect on the world. The convenience isn’t worth the loss of privacy, empowerment of bad actors, and psychological/societal damage. I can live without it. I’ll just do computery stuff on real computers on my own schedule.

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      Yeah, just hating on iPhones because they’re iPhones is stupid. I use GrapheneOS, and their official statement is “Graphene is your best option for security, but if you don’t want to fiddle with things and be in an open source ecosystem, your #2 best choice is an iPhone”

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          I genuinely don’t understand this mindset. they work fine and the security seems unmatched.

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            It’s not hard to understand for me.

            I don’t have a Pixel. GrapheneOS now costs me hundreds of dollars. I’d like to be able to flash a custom ROM, but I literally don’t have the option without buying into it. I’m sure the Pixel is fine, but so is my current phone that also already cost me hundreds of dollars. This is a ridiculous problem to have.

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              I don’t think it’s all that ridiculous that you can’t install a security focused OS on a device that lacks the security required by the OS.

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      It won’t affect you in any way directly. The issue is it very well may affect what apps are available and regularly updated on Fdroid and other app stores or repos.

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    Hardware really needs to be opened. So many issues are caused by people being unable to get away from large company control due to them beinf the only ones able to get decent hardware.

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    Yeah I find it hilarious that anyone thinks apple cares about privacy. They clearly have been cultivating that image but it rings pretty hollow to me. They just chose something that would be easy to say they care about that an ad company clearly also doesn’t care about.

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        Like all of this is untrue? You can have you iPhone or whatever at to encrypt shit locally and Apple has no ownership of the data? This obviously comes with tradeoffs, but people are so effing uninformed and apparently riding the dick of google as hard as they can.