• Breezy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      There hasnt been, that doesnt make it impossible. Improbable for sure, but if someone did take over(aliens) who dont let the power go to their head, then there could definitely be a benevolent dictator.

      • Denjin@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        But short of aliens, no one could take over, as you say, without violent repression of their opponents so that by definition, they’re no longer benevolent.

        • Breezy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          You speak of absolutely when even without aliens there is a chance. People should have more hope in humanity, which i have little of(but not none!).

          Also i never said no violence, its clear there will probably be plenty. But there can be justified violence to aim for the greater good.

          • Denjin@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            How can you consider the violent oppression of people, whether you happen to agree with them or not, to be in any way benevolent?

            • Breezy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              2 days ago

              Because i dont believe everyone deserves mercy. There are some people who just gotta go.

              • Denjin@feddit.uk
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 day ago

                How are you not understanding my point? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

                • Breezy@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  21 hours ago

                  I think you’re the one miss understanding. I get your point, but i disagree with it.

                  • Denjin@feddit.uk
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    20 hours ago

                    No, I am not. By definition you cannot be benevolent in any form if your method of seizing power is to murder your opposition. That’s just being a regular dictator.

      • Denjin@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        You can’t consolidate enough power into your own hands to enact meaningful change in a country (positive or negative) without violent oppression, therefore making the idea of a benevolent dictator an oxymoron.