• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago
    • Ukraine is a sovereign nation and is supported by its allies. allies have not declared war against Russia – not a war

    • Israel is a sovereign nation and is taking action against a perceived threat against its government (false IMO but 🤷) – not a war

    • the rest aren’t wars, they are political movements sold to the American public under the guise of better protection but in reality is the establishment of a police state nation.

    war is war. none of what you said is a war. words are important. don’t perpetuate the invalidation of the word “war” by continuing the misuse of the word they have instigated.

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      • Are you saying that Ukraine’s allies, specifically the USA are not financially supporting the Ukraine war? Remember we are talking about how the cost of war effects the economy.
      • it sounds like you’re dismissing the war in Gaza because of how you are deciding to define the word war. Do you really think that daily airstrikes, ground invasion,a siege, and an officially recognized genocide doesn’t qualify as a war simply because it hasn’t been declared?

      I couldn’t disagree more on the rest of your points. You seem so focused on semantics that you can’t see the obvious. Also, if we are going to base everything on semantics, if the commander in chief declares something a war, then it is one.

      US tax dollars are being used for these activities, no matter if you support them or not. And in some cases (more specifically the domestic ones) they are a net negative on GDP.

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        1 day ago

        I can’t discuss this with you because you’re clearly not understanding what a war is.

        that’s fine though, you be ignorant and make a fool out of yourself. no skin off my back.

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          They are right about semantics. Although, you have a decent point about overuse/misuse of the word war.

          Technically the US hasn’t been at war since WWII. As you say he stretches the meaning of the word war to the breaking point, not calling the Vietnam Conflict a war also seems equally ridiculous.

          Also what about the Cold War? If everyone agrees the War on Drugs is a war and considering it has cost us millions of lives now why can’t it be a war.

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            16 hours ago

            I don’t think any President actually declared a cold war, which is different then the war on drugs and the war on terror. The cold war did however have a great effect on the USA economy, the military industrial complex, and also prompted the second red scare. Which led to many people losing their rights, citizenship and livelihood.

            We have totally been involved in proxy wars since ww2 and some have argued we are in 2 now both in Ukraine and in Gaza.

            I don’t know where exactly the line is drawn, or how exactly war is defined. And I do believe that words have meanings. Which is why when a sitting president declares a war on drugs there are consequences and the USA can now execute people on an alleged “drug boat” without much resistance.

            I believe it’s our job to recognize and call out things like this, among other things.

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              16 hours ago

              Good point about the Cold War, it is more a term for academics to talk about that time in history.

              Just one more thing to point out, there was also a number of regime changes the US was responsible for during that time frame. They often amounted to usurping a democracy and installing a fascist dictator.

              I think it is astute to say we are in two proxy wars right now. Selling weapons is one of our favorite past times.

              I think you make an excellent point about the war on drugs and blowing up a “drug” boat. I never thought of it that way.

              I appreciate you.wanting to call things out. I to want to call things out when I see them. It is very important because a lot of people don’t see things. I would miss a lot of it wasn’t for everyone else.