tribal members have been citizens far longer than the United States has even existed
I understand the point you are making here, although I want to add that most American Indians were not United States citizens until 1924.
The United States is not their country, but a force that is occupying their land. It is more complicated than that, but it needs to be a part of the conversation, in my opinion.
If anyone is interested in the liberation of American Indians/First Nations I encourage you to get a copy and read “Custer Died for Your Sins” today!
Also, if you don’t want to be a colonizer, the first step is to actually study the history of the people in your local region. The history of indigenous people and settlers is not necessarily separate, but intertwined.
In order to stand together with tribes, most of whom gave been held in poverty and disrespected (and worse!) by the United States, it is important to thoroughly understand the topics at hand so we can bring about the proper restitution. Despite the efforts of settlers to erase these people and their history, we have the opportunity to stand with them and write a new chapter.
I don’t think you meant it that way, but there are many many lands that belong to American Indians, but are not federally recognized due to:
I’m also down to go with “all the land is theirs regardless as the treaties were signed under duress”.
Both of those countries took notes from the United States, particularly with respect to the success of the genocide of American Indians.
Isn’t it kind of Trump’s way of doing business? That’s exactly where things are headed for people who stand up against him.
I know it’s not directly relevant to Congress, but the Minneapolis mayor outright said “I am not in favor of abolishing ICE” today.
Anyone who has read theory and applied to their worldview knows that class consciousness will naturally arise as the contradictions of capitalism continue to sharpen. I might be out ahead of some people are at, but I notice among my friends that what I say takes root and males more sense to them weeksnor months after the conversation.
Why are you calling me blind? Why are you so closed minded about soemthibgbso inconsequential like “the precise amount of praise wants from each party”?
This rude behavior is ripped straight from The Everything App^TM
We all started somewhere! Nobody is immune to propaganda.
He wants it from people who are useful to him. I’m not blind.
Look at how he treated Zelensky and Machado. They come in and suck up, but he doesn’t see them as useful.
Other leaders who openly dislike him (and he dislikes back, on a political level), such as Mamdani, Sheinbaum, and even Kim Jong Un, more easily get on his good side without sucking up (they sometimes throw a little praise his way, as you’ve observed).
When you take it too far it falls flat
Yeah sure either way he isn’t into it.
Even during the founding of the US there were abolitionists, anti-racists and what we would call today communist and anarchists. US history has been driven by the white supremacist’s agenda, but there has always been a strong push against it.
Totally
I think many ‘Americans’ do see the US as a bastion of freedom for refugees and people of all races. That has been the promoted image of the US, obviously we know the state doesn’t adhere to that idealized version but many people here do seem to see that image as the ‘true America’.
Right, many people do see it that way. Particularly with the resources and modern interpretations we have available in 2026, we can look back through history and see how that was a lie (or at least “propaganda” of some form). It’s fine if you want it to be true, but in reality the US constitution did not build a truly democratic government structure (this was by design). I think current events (beyond the Donald Trump presidencies) clearly illustrate that nothing short of a new constitutional convention will be able to resolve this.
If there were a new constitution, it would no longer be the “United States of America” as we know it today, of course, it would be something else entirely.
It also isn’t effective, Trump doesn’t actually respect people who grovel toward him, especially if they aren’t useful to him.
Why so rude? What is even the “deep end”?
If any suggestion of “consider this other point of view” provokes such a reaction, I guess you aren’t wrong, but isn’t that simple closed-mindedness on your part?
Is there anything I can clarify about what I meant?
Lol is that where the down votes are coming from?
I wasnt even taking a particular stance on the topic, just suggesting that we carefully consider “starting a civil war” as a potential option. I actually like the energy lol
I would consider a different point of view which is that ICE is a much closer representation of the “American ideal” than where you and your community stand. A study of key events of U.S. history backs this up, in my opinion. The founding ideals had much more to do with the supremacy of white, land owning, christian men than anything else.
As time has passed I think the definition of “white” has been reshaped, and women have been brought in a bit closer, but the United States government has never stood for the equality of all people. This illusion was able to be maintained in much of the late 20th century by exporting the oppression of the underclass to people in other countries.
I’d encourage people to reflect on whether or not their ideals of equality of people were ever “American” in nature, or if it might be necessary to oppose the United States government to achieve this vision.
No I know, just being pedantic about it for fun
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______Since it’s on a downswing, wouldn’t it technically be a “valley” instead of a “plateau”?
I think we are going to have another decade or two or that, with the way things are looking