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Well what do you mean by provocation? Because I can’t imagine her doing anything that would actually warrant the responses alleged.

If Israel is desert New Jersey, what does that make Delaware?

Yeah, I mean you never explicitly stated it wasn’t the fault of the Israeli’s here. But I think that is still implied by what you said, and that’s why people are raging against you.

There’s a nuanced issue here about fault and responsibility, I think. The Israelis are absolutely at fault for any mistreatment of Greta (or any prisoner), and the Israelis are responsible for their actions, but Greta is also responsible for putting herself in harm’s way. However, Greta isn’t necessarily at fault for doing so, and furthermore her responsibility for her own actions must in no way detract from the responsibility nor fault by the Israeli forces.

Responsibility isn’t portioned out in percentages. Someone can be 100% responsible for something, but someone else can also have some responsibility. However, fault is portioned out, and a victim is in no way at fault for the fault of their attacker.

But your original point was that Greta “provoked” the Israelis. This is you implying fault. And I don’t think you can reasonably justify this assumption.

You’re confused in thinking MAGA is one contiguous group. There are Nazis within MAGA (in fact they have been promoted, especially this term), but there are non-Nazis too. There were people in MAGA who loved Charlie Kirk, and people who hated him for being pro-Israel.

The only thing tying them together is Trump.

It’s less about this being a cult, more about it being a cult of personality. Regular cults can continue on, a cult of personality dies when the personality dies.

This is classic victim blaming. “You knew you would get attacked, so it’s your fault, not the attacker’s fault.”

Her goal is to get food to starving people. Media attention furthers that goal, even if they don’t succeed directly in delivering food.

Their point is right there taking up half the comment:

being a conservative mean those who in politics uphold the value of tradition, oppose any progressive ideology, and aim to preserve traditional social and political structures

In other words, they’re “conserving” traditional values.

However this isn’t really true, and @Lumisal@lemmy.world is correct that this isn’t really what they’re doing. It’s how they think they’re behaving, but they have a distorted view on history and see it through rose tinted glasses, often trying not to conserve but to “restore” society to some half-cocked version that never really existed.

Lol, I’m sure it’s a good book and Cory Doctorow is well renowned, but I can’t help but think: “Defeat Chokepoint Capitalism by buying our book right now!”

Did you read the article - or even the title? This story is about people turning to piracy, not turning to another official source.