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    I don’t want him to die yet.

    I want him to live long enough to face all the consequences of his every criminal action. I want him to die in prison after losing everything. After watching his entire criminal family jailed, his buildings and gold courses sold, and his name forever marked as the despotic maniac he is. Even then, it would not be sufficient justice.

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      Yeah and if the CK thing was any indicator of how it’ll go, the administration will milk it for all it’s worth. It’ll be gross.

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        I hope he dies in the stupidest, self-owning way possible, like tripping over his own feet and falling down some stairs. Preferably on camera.

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            During one of his dumb speeches in front of a crowd of MAGA idiots … right in the middle of making one of his dumb statements, just suddenly stops, stares into space and falls over.

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        Unlike with CK though, they won’t be able to hide or contain or threaten the millions of people who will take to the streets celebrating. THAT is the part I look forward to, the absolute, uncontainable movement of the masses defying the state and all it’s impotent rage.

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    Handlers keeping him hidden like they did Biden. Dead or alive were still fucked, he’s just a cog in the machine that will be replaced to keep the status quo protected and running

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      Sure then the cult will quietly assemble under that master smooth charismatic leader Steven Miller.

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        He’s too close to the mothership. Vance will be president and ol Steve will continue avoiding UV light, where possible.

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        Unlike master smooth charismatic leader Donald Trump?

        All he needs to do is slur some slurs and his base will eat it up. There’s nothing fancy behind them, just a lack of humanity.

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          Yeah it’s a cult of personality. DeSantis wanted it but they said No.

          Lindsey Graham thought he could weasel his way in, they laughed him out. Perjury Traitor Greed has all the credentials but, let’s be honest, she identifies as a woman, and they’re not electing that. Plus she’s plain old insane. He’s demented. It’s a fine but distinct line.

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            Yeah but if trump croaks, there will be a power vacuum, and these are the kinds of people who need someone to worship.

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              With any luck they’ll display all of the hatred and animosity that made them famous toward each other.

              Y’know like the left does.

              Hi-oooooooo!

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            Desantis wears shoe inserts and graham is very clearly a closeted homosexual. Miller is hateful and patriotic and has the balls to atleast appear to be himself. That is all they like about trump aside from his illusion of wealth. “The way he just says what he means.” It will either be miller or miller will continue to control from the background and let vance be the scapegoat for when things get ugly.

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              Stephen Miller can never fill Trump’s shoes. Trump at least has charisma - he can charm and flatter people and keep a smile on his face. Miller is just hatred manifest, not to mention he exudes insecurity and he looks like a cartoon villain. Zero redeeming qualities. He has to stay in the background so people don’t see the ugly face of their agenda.

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              I mean - no. I know, i know, but seriously. They don’t even like Steve Bourbon, and he’s tried to be in the media as much as possible. Plus Miller is. Y’know.

              Let’s just say close but no cigar.

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                Bannon is a raging alcoholic that exudes Jabba the Hutt energy. I think of all of them, miller is the most immediately “effective”. I think given vances early ties to the paypal mafia, he is next in line for puppet.

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          I don’t get it but for whatever reason he has an enthusiastic following specific to him.

          There are a number of races where people tried to ride his popularity, but unless Trump is directly in the race, it doesn’t seem to matter so much.

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            He’s the embodiment of their idea of the American dream. Born with a silver spoon in his mouth, accruing unlimited wealth and living a life with no accountability. They want to be him.

            They don’t want a world with no kings. They want to be king.

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    When Trump dies, how long do you think Stephen Miller will try to keep it quiet?

    Trump needed the presidency to keep him out of prison. Steven Miller needs Trump’s protection so 8 year old girls don’t take his lunch money.

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      They won’t be able to hide it for 20 seconds.

      Everyone around Trump is there to catch the flotsam and jetsam of his power and political capital, when he croaks, everyone will suddenly be trying to engage in their own power-grab plans, it will be complete chaos.

      Republicans have no leader. They have nobody who can take the reins and keep Trump’s only real political capital under control, his dumb-as-fuck hillbilly base of heavily armed nutcases. They will mourn for a week and then get distracted by something and just like that, the fascist empire will start to erode as all these unlikable clowns trip over each other to try to become the next Trump.

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      I read the below recently from Millers wife and can’t help but think that he is the lamest attempt at a villain I’ve ever heard of. Genuinely one of the most pathetic people I’ve ever read about.

      “He is an incredibly inspiring man who gets me going in the morning with his speeches, being like, ‘Let’s start the day. I am going to defeat the left, and we are going to win,’”

      https://www.nickiswift.com/1977977/stephen-miller-wife-katie-all-but-confirms-marriage-weird-dull/

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    He’s too busy having a weeklong fuckfest with Satan again. It’s almost time for the baby.

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      Christmas Day would be the ultimate present. Oh you don’t like us celebrating on the day he died?? Who’s waging a war on Christmas now?

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          Remind them that Jesus Barabbas’ hiatus from the cult - a symbolic death and then rebirth - took place closer to passover anyway. There’s little chance we can keep Mr Trump alive long enough to line that up.

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          They’ll put a giant memorial up in Washington for every American person to weep at and they’ll track who comes to grieve and whether they have done so sufficiently to avoid the work camps that Dear Leader Vance will have built for disloyal citizens and degenerate queers.

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          Halloween or Thanksgiving would work too. Actually Thanksgiving may be the best choice of the three

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      Can we get this one on some of those event betting apps? I’d throw a dollar or two at that bet.

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      I’d honestly put money on him not making it to term, but that might be the safe bet. The thing is, that leaves us with Vance.

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        Iirc, the revelations anti-christ is supposed to rule for 7 years, I also have some memory that there was a hint it might not be consecutive.

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        Vance is useless as fuck and is incapable of herding his republican cats. He was a joke before Trump and he’ll continue to be a joke after.

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          I’ve gotten the feeling that Trump acts out of loving himself, while Vance explicitly wants to be awful. Both about as terrifying, but Vance seems more menacing in my mind.

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            Vance himself isn’t the problem insofar he’s a symptom of the same disease Trump is one of. His ties to cryptobros and Peter Thiel, however, most definitely are.

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              For sure, and I was mostly considering them as individuals which admittedly isn’t the most pertinent when the rest of the party is the way it is.

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          You think Vance is easier to manipulate than the literal pedophile with a lifetime of compromat who consistently flips his convictions over who complimented him last???

          I’m not saying Vance isn’t easy to manipulate, I’m just saying I can’t imagine there’s an easier to manipulate human being over the age of 4 than Donald Trump.

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          Eh… Vance isn’t the childish wanna be strong man that Trump is. He’s an ambitious ideologue who has the backing of powerful wealthy men and will 1000% take advantage of the ground work towards authoritarianism that Trump laid. I wouldn’t be shocked if he fails to inspire MAGA at large to fall in behind him. He’d probably fave a lot of opposition and other Trump wannabes in a future election, if we have any more of those. But he will definitely try to hold onto all that MAGA influence and he will likely succeed in at least getting Trump’s cabinet and the Republican congress and SCOTUS to prop up his bullshit just like they did Trump. They’ll be relieved to have a more predictable autocrat in charge. If he continues to undermine elections and the rule of law like Trump, well… I’m sure he doesn’t hate the idea of being a young dictator for life.

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        I’m sure you can find someone in the abandoned casinos who would love to do any kind of gambling with you at all.

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      Has anyone made a website for him like the one for Kissinger? That way we can all bet and help a charity

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    Please be dead. I think he’s done enough damage to his own cause that if he dies, the cult of personality will be broken. Vance won’t be able to keep it up. If Trump gets killed, he becomes a martyr and they rally around his causes, but dying of natural causes is more hopeful.

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      If he died of natural causes, what makes you think that’s how the White House would report it. They’d say he was killed and use it to create a false divisive narrative, blaming some left wing conspiracy or assassin who doesn’t exist. They’d use it to galvanise maga behind Vance blah blah blah…

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        But without Trump himself directing it, they won’t be able to focus that rage, it will quickly divest into the thousand little in-groups of conspiracies, backwoods nutcases screaming into the void, random nuts in trucks driving into drugstores and shooting up pizza places.

        It will be chaotic sure, but it will have no cohesion. Half the people around Trump are just there to pick up his crumbs of power, the other half are delusional enough to think they have the unique charm to take his place.

        When Trump dies, there won’t be leadership in the republican party. They’re making an effort with Vance by parading him around more and more, but the right doesn’t like him. He talks too much, he sounds like a politician.

        Honestly, the only person who could have possibly taken pole position and started rallying the right under his own brand of conservative charisma was Charlie Kirk. No wonder the right is so bent out of shape about it.

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        Even if they don’t explicitly say it (which they will), the MAGA hordes will concoct their own conspiracy theories and believe them. After all, they are all QAnon alumni.

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    Last time this happened, the indicators that something was up was Vance not being able to keep his mouth shut and tweeting about it. Along with a 300% increase in take out pizza orders at near the pentagon.

    I cant imagine they are fully staffed right now, but if I find out something happened because an inordinary number of feds need to get late night pizza, Ill eat my shoe.

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    He’s just hiding like the fucking coward he is. He didn’t like knowing all those smart successful people weren’t willing to clap for his brilliance.

    Remember how he much he desires to be acknowledged and thought highly of by those types.