Its the same situation where people purposely downgrade their phones to flip phones.

Sometimes simplicity is more convenient and secure. Especially when you don’t need all the gimmicks a modern device has - it is a difference of paying $100 or $1000+

Its the fact that “generations” are used here. It brings in a harmful concept, thats all.

Honestly, it does look like a case of bigotry. Its unneeded and literally does no one favours. It is valid to state the concerns.

Putting generations at scope is honestly stupid and doesnt focus on the real issue. The generational concept should stay as a gimmick - otherwise it is used haphazardly.

That doesn’t even relate to socialism. What an idiot.

They said they take away the liberties of young people - they took away the liberties of all people.

At this point they’re the ones creating false premises and the people dont have any real way of challenging that.

Garbage in - garbage out

Lol.

I agree, its only when they grow up to become teenagers when they become more aware and develop a firmer stance about their sexuality and identity. Until then they are transitioning - forward to whatever they believe they are.

The best thing is education because without it we will remain with people which are clueless about their true identity.

Yes, there is a possibility that a malicious actor may fabricate “studies”, im not denying that - in fact I agree with your comment.

It is important to realise that by supporting such efforts people will get hurt. Of course, banning isnt a valid option, and certainly not bans which concentrate within a particular minority.

It is those who let this happen that should dace the consequences - not the people, not the minorities and not anyone (regardless of gender, race or age). It may have appeared that I support banning but I dont.

The whole premise of proven harms is that it is not manipulated - but proven. Stop trying to change the narrative, when the fact is, that harms which correspond to children also apply to other ages - thats the thing where talking about.

I’m not assuming, I am stating this, as ‘proven’ doesnt change meaning (otherwise its just misinformation).

Well, I can definitively agree on that.

I agree, but on the ageism point. The thing that needs to be done is regulation so that manipulative design is reduced. Its the corporations that are the problem. Bans only target the victims the most.

Classic example of an strawman. Blame it all on the booze.

So free reign for censorship so long as someone alleges harm?

So in your mind protecting people from proven harms is censorship? Isnt this what you essentially are advocating for here?

Side note, censorship is not what I advocate for, but a free internet thats safe for everyone. If regulation is censorship then you clearly need to look up the definitions.

…While allowing the real abusers of power to continue on. The bans are targeting the wrong people - children but also teenagers shouldnt have their rights barred because the bad guys exist. Its the bad guys who should face the consequences.

How about we make the web safe for everyone. There is no need for gambling and other harmful things, as it impacts everyone - this isnt an age problem.

This isn’t only a technical problem, but also an human rights, and youth rights problem. And right now, that anonymous I’d thing will only punish the people the most while corporations publishing harmful algorithms stay blameless.

What country do you live in? And, if you don’t live in any of those affected countries, why should your opinion be more valuable than the one of the people living in it?

There is some sense in that; however in this case this is completely absurd. Do human rights violations not matter? Because thats what’s happening here, there are also wars which fit right in your logic, is that out of our concern too?

I’m certainly against people forcefully planting their beliefs and culture (I.e. Christianity, or other “superiors” who think their ethics are true) in other places. But honestly, if you believe things like genocide (which is included In your logic) is non of our concern, as long as its in a different country - then there is no point even continuing to read your entire post.

As a person supporting “professionals” you seem quite dead set on supporting what literally is fascism. Your last paragraph doesn’t make this any better.

Dont be crying when your kids leave you without contact one day. Also because it is easier, it don’t automatically make it a good choice - your kids are not machines.

Exactly, we have people against people because of this situation when the actual focus should be corpos. There are agruments which support such bans; however, the one thing they forget is who is the victim and who is the abuser. Because last time I looked, the abusers should be banned not the victims.

But even with that in mind, age has no place here, because the induced ageism is the entire drive of this entire law and movement.

Fascists are experts in dividing people and diverting the blame.