Camera with a solar panel and battery attached.

Wait, stop the attitude of thinking can’t help, or stop the attitude of thinking cops can?

Well we have two Trump victories that say not a significant enough number of voters. The nice thing is that you can still not be the other guy while giving a “why me”.

She didn’t make it to the primary even before she was a certified failure.

Every holy book says its followers are god’s bestest people, it’s just literally just money, you’re being an idiot.

Yeah give them a couple years to “really make a good case” like we did for Jan 6th. Slow bureaucracy will certainly save us this time.

The slop is the comment parroting the same trite conversation that’s been had over and over about lesser evils voting. Might not be AI slop, but I didn’t put it past you when I saw the pfp. If all you have to say at this point in time is about you’re vote blue no matter who strategy, your comment is slop, and I’m done explaining this.

What is there to reply to? This conversation has been had a million times here, mixed with what I assumed was an em dash and an AI profile pic, sorry if it’s ‘not a good look’ to call out the slop.

Fair enough, I assumed LLMs used the markdown double dash for their em dash, mixed with the AI profile pic, and general bad taste of a slop comment, I judged too quickly.

Em dash, AI profile pic… Hmmm…

Yeah, definitely no context to go into with primaries. But I’m glad you’re picking the important fights at times like this.

I don’t even talk politics

convenient position for a white cishet christian male in the middle of America with a steady income. 🙄😤

Ahh my loving sister

Weird to censor yourself like the swear words are the ugly parts of your long winded hostile rants.

No worries, thank you for the detailed reply!

Sounds like a solid way to do it, and a support the uwuification of all software, so that’s an extra bonus! Might have to futz around with it and see what sort of mess I can get myself into.

XMPP is wildly extendable, my limited understanding is that Jingle is the extension used for this. From the abstract:

This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for initiating and managing peer-to-peer media sessions between two XMPP entities in a way that is interoperable with existing Internet standards. The protocol provides a pluggable model that enables the core session management semantics (compatible with SIP) to be used for a wide variety of application types (e.g., voice chat, video chat, file transfer) and with a wide variety of transport methods (e.g., TCP, UDP, ICE, application-specific transports).

I haven’t seen anything about the the extrema of the use cases like that, but Movim is working on building out many of the features of discord and it is built on XMPP.

Yeah that is yucky, seems like self hosting hasn’t really been at the forefront of intention for the project. From the looks of it, them being in Sweden it might have started as a “buy EU” sort of discord clone that was pulled into the death of discord conversation with the ID stuff.

Interesting times 🫠

Curious your thoughts on stoat, that came out of revolt correct? What sorts of bloat did you find?

4 is definitely a good benchmark for self hosting! lol Have you run Synapse, and how did that compare?

Down with discord!

I’m starting a new app called Concordance, and it will only bridge between different apps no matter where they are from 😤

That’s valid, and I think I was coming off a bit of frustration from the previous comment I made in this chain. There are so many new apps that all try and build the features of discord, but always seem to base in closed protocols and so rarely use protocols that already exist, and with that add to the “15 competing standards” problem. Which is why I get much more excited by projects like Movim.

With all of that though, while I agree element has hiccups, XMPP has been around forever and is solid. We saw this with twitter migration too, the existence of other servers makes it seem more difficult, when that’s not really the case. As this video shows, go to the place to want to sign up, give a user and password, confirm you’re human, and use it. That’s already less than the email confirmation of discord.

Googling I got their docs and a github for running through docker, the docs which are empty, and the docker that has the help of claude code.

I try to not poo poo folks working on projects too much, but like why am I here over XMPP or Matrix?