I bet it’s the isntrael emoji which shows the pissrahelli flag burning. It was a huge deal when it got added on hexbear because it contains the star of david, so some said it could get used by antisemites, but the faction arguing against that made a pretty convincing if very long argument that I am unable to faithfully reproduce rn.
Yeah I saw, being vegan is really eye-opening to the sort of silencing civility arguments that other social justice movements face and why being rude is necessary sometimes.
I don’t know if I think that there is a paid campaign on lemmy, don’t know that there is the size to warrant that. But I do know that I hate that character from Dexter because of their language is very anti-autism coded. I do get your point though lol
Fyi, the disengage usage is commonly meant for when someone feels berated or is otherwise emotional upset by the discussion. It’s meant for when discussions get to emotional and heated as a way for one party to be able to walk away. It’s not meant as a “please stop talking to me”, but rather a “i can’t bear to listen to this anymore”. Particularly for comrades who have trouble communicating or get upset easily to not have to keep repeating “that’s not what I meant” only to fail to explain themselves once more.
It’s definitely not meant as a way to get a last word in. I’d change the last sentence to “I agree to disengage”, or “I will not engage further” to make what you mean clear. Your current usage is very frowned upon and might get you banned on hexbear for instance.
I am going to be honest here, without looking into it I am 90% sure these will be misunderstandings or zionists sockpuppets. I would think it impossible that someone coherently antizionist on feddit is going to be “rah rah mow them all down”. That’s not even true about hamas.
I know you think that sounds even-handed but please remember that zionism is a form of settler colonialism. You are in effect saying “we don’t allow hateful speech whether it is from the afrikaners or the anti-apartheid activists.”
Why are you allowing speech from zionists at all? Why shouldn’t the antifascists be full of anger towards the pro-genocide camp?
The whole world is witness to what zionism means, this is like coddling 1943 germans. Could you imagine the rhetoric a palestinian who had his wife and kids blown up would use against some of your members? Would they be protected or banned?
No one does, this is a made up boogeyman.
I have been. Your instance is still full of zionist apologia, repeating hasbara like the “7 Oct mass rape” allegations etc. I don’t think there are a lot of fedditors who genuinely believe that the destruction of Israel is a necessity. And they never will because talk about it is forbidden. Thus perpetuating zionism.
Also, don’t preemptively comply with cops, if they want to shut you down they will find a way even if they have to make something up. Why, if I post “Death to Israhell” right now is not visible from feddit.org? Is it not even hosted on your server? Is the image below not visible from feddit.org ? And if I post it somewhere that federates with feddit.org and it gets enough upvotes, wouldn’t it even be on the front page? Maybe it even get’s cached on your server? Big trouble if I were a fed.
And on language like “Genocidesmany” and “Pissrahell” it’s important to kill all those little voices that got trained to uphold nations as sanctimonous. Of worthy of respect, or whatever else. Kill the bourgeois propaganda inside you, drown it until no bubbles appear. People talk about revolutions but then suddenly panic when people are being too rude to the imperialists and their propagandists. We’re not gonna globalize the intifada in a civil way. The bourgeoisie won’t let us.
Again, I wanted other vegans who see it to be aware of their tactic so they don’t reply to them.
Spiteful and abusive to nationalists and people who coddle them. I completely understand why I’m not welcome on feddit I just wanted to highlight it.
Why should I? I wanted to push them on this further, I wanted them to commit to an argument so we could actually have something to talk about instead of them just throwing out claims and requiring paragraphs of response instead. I also wanted other vegans who see it to be aware of their tactic so they don’t reply to them.
A better warning method would have been making a post about their tactics on a Vegan comm, they’re prolific enough for it to be warranted, but I guess why that would be a bad idea? Because then it would actually be “sicking people on them” which is why I didn’t do it. Because I actually don’t believe in dogpiling individuals.
Things that you can’t say on Feddit: Calling for genocide against Israelis, calling for the destruction of Israel, supporting Hamas, antisemitic talking points, etc.
See conflating all of these things as if they’re the same is what makes you zionist. You could just mention the antizionist stuff that you can’t say due to legal reasons. Calling for the destruction of an apartheid state is necessary. Imagine you couldn’t say stuff like “Death to Rhodesia” or “Death to the 3rd Reich”.
It makes you sound like you will delete “Death to Jews” for legal reasons (when there are a few better reasons already) while simultaneously putting it on the same level as “Death to Israel”.
Also just move servers to a better country? Like how is this not a complete skill issue? Edit: Also don’t preemptively comply with cops! “Legal reasons” is such a sad excuse tbh
which is why I doubt you are as innocent as you make yourself out to be.
doubt all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that I simply not have been “following them around” or “sicking people on them”. If you are gonna maintain otherwise provide links. ___
Ooooh I wasn’t calling out Genocidesmany’s role in pissrahell’s genocide nicely enough. Anyone offended by me calling a spade with a Totenkopf a “SSpade” is a nationalist. Genuinely, someone taking offense at “their nation” being called a mean name is a nationalist, there are no two ways about it. Should have banned them and not me if you weren’t a lib. I am completely ok with this ban. 🎖
The this you comment was to a discussion we had earlier, also initiated by them, I had added that additional context but took it out as requested by @[email protected] specifically to draw attention away from commie.
They are a very avid troll with a very specific pattern, throw out engagement bait, then discard all arguments as insufficient while never providing any themself. Which is how I kept recognizing them. So I captured their behavior in a thread to refer back as evidence of this pattern.
This isn’t following someone around. Replying back to someone refering to an earlier conversation you had with them is not following someone around, I don’t know why people try to twist it in such a way.
And yeah I have complete disdain for your zionist instance, the fact that I got banned for “conflating contemporary Germany with genocide” because I was talking about Germany’s role in a contemporary genocide is something I wear with pride.
And brigading is when you get people to harass a person. You could have just blocked “commie” instead you followed them around and tried to sick people on them.
Where am I “getting people to harass a person” or “sicking others on them”? I have no clue what even this could refer to? Who have I messaged or what? Like what even? This post? The one made after that allegation??
You banned me from feddit for calling out Germany’s role in the palestinian genocide lmfao 🤣 And how is replying back to someone following them around? I don’t I think I ever initiated an interaction with them. And what brigading? What even are you talking about???
Apparently only vegans can make poorly formed arguments however. The carnists are a bastion of logic and reason, no ideological bias whatsoever, this is just your friendly neighborhood cop who polices internet comments that don’t constitute a formal argument
If I were searching for people to agree with me I would post this to a vegan community. I’m looking to defend myself against the accusation of “following someone around” and “harassing” them.
As an aside I have heard the dietary reason a couple times now but never anything concretely about it and I’d like to learn more about it. Please don’t see this as a reason to defend your right to live or feel pressured into replying in any way, I do want to learn more about this but you obviously are under no obligation to talk about your health on the internet to a stranger on the internet.
Also veganism is about minimizing harm, if you need animal protein to live then I’d consider that non-minimizable. I for instance require adhd medicine to function but unfortunately all the derivatives come with gelatin for the delaying effect necessary for it to correctly function. I consider this non-minimizable as well, since this is a choice forced upon me by society. There might be plant-based alternatives possible but they are not getting produced and I do not posses the means (or legal basis) to produce it myself.
This is about the comment removal and ban by @[email protected]. Well more the reason for it, I have received many ridiculous bans before, for longer times even, but accusing me of “harassment” and “following someone around” in the modlog where I can’t reply is fairly egregious.
I felt this much context was necessary to show why I remembered (and even bookmarked) a discussion I had with the person months ago. It is pretty hard to show that I am not stalking someone so I went with adding as much context as possible.
I agree that the focus very much gets pulled from the mod and to the other user, but this is at it’s core about the accusations that got put in the modlog, so that at least I have noted a defense for it while it’s still fresh. Since these modlog accusations tend to compound like for e.g. another ban I received for calling out Germany’s complicity in the Palestinian genocide citing all the other bans I had received.
It is also to call out the double standard in moderation where this user seems to never be at the receiving end of mod actions despite (rather obviously imo) engaging in bad faith behaviour.
I’ll trim it down, please have a look again in 5 minutes. I don’t think anonymizing the other party will be possible however since my comment is in direct reply to them, even references a discussion I had with them and ultimately it is an accusation that I’m “following them around”. Very hard to talk about while completely omitting who “they” are.
The person using “mental condition” as an insult.
Gnome with paperwm is goated. The best DE is the one I don’t think about where everything is always “there”. All I ever really want is a bunch of windows in an arbitrary non-overlapping arrangement and some energy/bluetooth/network gizmos. I do not want to use menus. Ever.