• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    After the woman was detained, her husband said he called his attorney. Shortly after, he received a call from St. Peter Chief of Police Matt Grochow, whom he has known for years.

    "I was talking to him, kind of venting some of my frustrations,” the husband told MPR, before encouraging the chief to make sure local officers were more visible during ICE operations. “If [local police] were present and they could see you, I promise you their behavior more than likely, or hopefully, would, you know, be appropriate and law-abiding,” he said.

    After the officers put her in their car and drove toward the Twin Cities, they themselves received a call, the woman said, and quickly turned back.

    “ICE returned the female to our police department, I saw her, and I gave her a ride home,” Grochow wrote in a statement to MPR about the incident.

    Two lessons from this:

    1. Cops do have influence over ICE and what they do.

    2. Cops won’t use that influence unless it’s a personal friend that also has lawyers on retainer.

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      I’m wondering if it’s because ICE can’t detain citizens. And I don’t mean they can’t legally detain citizens. I mean they don’t have places to do it. Do they have jails? If they only operate detention facilities for immigrants they would have to take detained citizens to a police station and in this case the police probably said they will not arrest her. And yes, they will often lie that someone is not a citizen but does anyone know of a case where they put a white citizen into a immigrant detention facility? Or do they take those people to jails?

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            They won’t let members of congress in which they’re legally supposed to do. My guess is they have dozens of US citizens in their detention centers because they changed their name or whatever. That’s probably why they’re picking up people’s wives (marital name changes are the most common type).

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            If you think being white is going to help you, you’re delusional. So far, both people they executed in the streets were white.

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              ‘Both people’

              They killed a bunch of people before they shot the two white ones.

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                We haven’t seen video of those victims yet, so I’m not going to characterize their deaths one way or another. But the two executions we specifically witnessed were both white victims.

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        They can put anyone in the “detention centers” if they have suspicion that the person is illegally in the country.
        Of course the person can show passport or other sort of ID, but the SA goons can just decide they never saw it. Then that person is an unidentified alien in a “detention center” and will stay there until they disappear.

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      I get what you are saying, but I’ll take any W we can get. If a privileged older white lady (OWL) is what it takes to give ICE a very public black eye and get the cops more involved in hindering these nazi goons, then I’m onboard.

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    It was not thwarted. It was successful, and the perpetrators experience no consequences.

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    In their statement, they vilified the victim by claiming she was fleeing law enforcement.

    Hmmm… I wonder why she did that? Running for her life, perhaps?

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    Something seems to be missing here…

    After the officers put her in their car and drove toward the Twin Cities, they themselves received a call, the woman said, and quickly turned back.

    How did the call to the police chief result in these people receiving a call…? This is seemingly stated as a determining factor in them turning around and taking her to the police station. But… how did this happen like that without some type of cooperation between local police and the feds?

    Knowing what individuals were working in the area, where they were, what type of vehicles they were using (another article stated the police chief, on the call with the husband, described the vehicle the woman was taken away in to confirm it with the husband), and how this all resulted in a supposed phone call/the woman being taken to the police and turned over to them.

    A personal relationship with the police chief is one thing, but the rest I can’t make out at this point.

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      After the woman was detained, her husband said he called his attorney. Shortly after, he received a call from St. Peter Chief of Police Matt Grochow, whom he has known for years.

      Here’s your answer: She was connected to someone important, the local police chief. If she’d been some random citizen, and didn’t have a high-powered friend, she’d still be in an ICE Concentration Camp, and we wouldn’t have heard a word about it.

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        Yeah, I get that for sure. It’s totally unlikely this would have been the result without their prior relationship with the Police Chief.

        What I’m confused about is how anyone in that chain of interactions knew how to get in touch with those specific ICE/CBP people; as it supposedly was a phone call directly to them which had them turn around and take her to the police station.

        So, I’m hypothesizing either the local police had some amount of knowledge of what ICE/CBP people were in the area and contact info for them, or a beneficial enough relationship between the chief or the local LE that contacting someone higher up in ICE/CBP/DSHS resulted in such a quick turn around (or any at all, based on their refusal to cooperate with seemingly every request anywhere else).

        Sorry, does that make more sense?

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          I would imagine that every police chief has the local ICE commander’s cell phone when they are in town, causing trouble.