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I wish I could buy an EV and opt out, but I can’t afford goddamn anything rn. Fuck trump and fuck this economy and fuck capitalism.
I’m sorry but my local government all Democrats have directly led to skyrocketing costs of owning electric vehicles and trying to power them up. You literally cannot afford an electric vehicle in the PNW unless you make over 200k a year, it’s insane now.
I’m a gearhead. What fucking EV are you talking about? A brand new cybertruck? Lucid Air?
A Chevy Bolt can be had for under $10k and gets 4 miles per KWh on a bad day. I live in Spokane, which I’d consider the INW (inland northwest), but close enough to the PNW, where my electricity costs about 14 center per KWh. So for 14 cents I can go 4 miles. For $3.50 I can go 100 miles.
In a gasoline car that gets a respectable 50mpg, I could go roughly 50 miles for $3.50, considering Idaho fuel prices. If I filled up in Washington, I wouldn’t get close to 50 miles.
If I made 200k/yr, I could afford to buy two chevy bolts per year, and still be spending less than a conservative 10% of my income on car purchases, not to mention the savings on fuel. I’m guessing a used Nissan leaf would be even cheaper.
https://www.seattle.gov/city-light/residential-services/billing-information/rates
Base service charge per day: $0.4103 Energy per kWh: $0.1392
Typical EV: 0.35 kWh per mile Typical monthly miles: 700
So ($0.4103 x 30 days) + (0.35 kWh x 700 miles x $.1392) = ~$46 per month
Yep, gotta earn at least $200k to pay that whopper. And since gas for ICE cost more, you gotta make $400k to buy gas.
You missed the part about the extra fees, the carbon tax fee, the ev registration fee, the new ev road use fee, the exclusive ev parking fees, have I mentioned the new ev specific fee for new purchases?
Tldr; you missed a few fees.
Still cheaper then ICE cars
Carbon tax would be cheaper as long as the grid has a bit of renewables in it
Ev registration fee is supposed to make up for the gas tax for road infrastructure that EVs don’t pay
< $12,000, 2019. And there’s plenty more cheaper.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/353048e4-7dcf-4efe-87ba-4e88fac918cf/
And I don’t think any of those other fees justify the $200k figure. Especially with a $12k car that uses $50/month of electricity.
In my state, republicans slapped on much higher EV registration fees but when democrats came into power, they just left them there. This pattern seems to mirror the national strategy.
power them up…PNW
If you’re talking California electricity prices, I get you — those are pretty horrendous — but Oregon and Washington electricity prices are pretty decent.
https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/
National average for residential electricity is $0.18/kWh. California is $0.34/kWh. Oregon is $0.16/kWh. Washington is $0.14/kWh.
Our rates in WA have gone up 66% in 4 years and is estimated to go up 30-40% in the next 4 years. There’s also all the new fees exclusively for EVs.
