• Twig@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023

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      11 months ago

      Ironically, this assassin literally justified the 2nd Amendment. You use it to off tyrants. And boy they sure did.

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        11 months ago

        But this guy wasn’t even a tyrant. He was just a fucking pawn. And there’s going to be somebody else ready to step in and take his place.

        This doesn’t solve anything. It just gives the right a much needed distraction and the illusion of having an excuse to crackdown hard on the left. They would have done it either way, but this basically buys them cover.

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          11 months ago

          Right? They’ve been treating the left so fairly this whole time and now we went and made them mad

          *Edit - I misread OP’s comment, and jumped on the wrong part.

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            11 months ago

            Literally the opposite of what I said but sure. Would love to hear what the fuck you believe this accomplishes to stop fascism or even right wing propaganda? If the administration actually dials it back after this, I guess I’ll buy you a fucking drink and we’ll have a good laugh about how right you were the whole time.

            Every time something like this happens, I honestly wonder how many people are actually this clueless and how many are just astroturfing/trolls working on behalf of the right and this administration to spread disinformation and outrage propaganda. I would like to believe it’s a ratio of about 15:85, but I’m also an optimist.

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              11 months ago

              I just re-read your comment and didn’t see the words “illusion of,” so I actually did misunderstand you and apologize.

              I’ll edit my comment to acknowledge that, but I’m still going to celebrate the dead fascist because it’s the news we need right now

          • Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
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            11 months ago

            So was this guy put on trial or was he just executed (allegedly by a civilian sharp shooter) during a time when the president keeps making false claims about needing to militarize American cities due to a lack of law and order?

            Funny you bring up this guy going to Nuremberg bc I was actually just thinking the other day how different history might have turned out of we’d actually put the major players like Hitler or Mussolini on trial in front of the rest of the world.

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              11 months ago

              Obviously this was a case of vigilante justice. But the man made his whole living trying to incite genocide against innocent people. The US government just blew up a boat full of Venezuelans, murdering them without trial, on the accusation of them being drug smugglers. Our closest ally, Israel, routinely executes people without trial for doing far less than what Kirk did.

              The 2nd Amendment is always cited as being to protect against tyranny. That obviously entails extrajudicial violence. If there is ever a valid use for extrajudicial violence, it’s in the prevention of genocide. The president will do all the evil he was going to do anyway. But he’s a fascist, of course he’s going to do that.

              I’m sorry, but I’m not going to shed a tear for this guy. His last words were an attempt to incite violence against a minority group. If there is a Hell, he’s burning there right now.

              Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. He got exactly what was coming to him.

    • [object Object]@lemmy.ca
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      11 months ago

      To quote Jesus: live by the sword, die by the sword.

      That’s all that comes to mind.

      These people who have been pushing for getting rid of trans people and throwing immigrants in concentration camps, and generally just calling for (and profiting from) hate need to realize doing so only has one consequence: more hate. Hate boils into violence.

      People can pray for him, but he did not live a life according to Jesus’ teaching when he preached hate.