A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.
So a boy made child p**n of a classmate and wasn’t punished but the victim of the crime was?
Americans really living up to their president’s standards eh
The US president is a pedophile. Victim blaming is a standard now, pedophilia and kiddy pron is protected these days. We’re living in a really shitty dystopia these days.
Schools with zero tolerance policies are bullshit.
Sometimes kids hit other kids. They’re figuring shit out.
Plus sometimes situations deserve a little violence.
Give a warning and expell the boy for the AI image instead. That does a hell of a lot more damage than a light smacking.
Everything with a zero tolerance policy is bullshit and just an excuse to avoid having to actually consider nuance and individual situations.
Zero tolerance? Except for deepfake porn, apparently.
The parents should sue the school for tolerating that.
I got the same punishment in highschool for climbing over a table in the lunchroom to start a fight with someone who bullied me as I did for showing up five minutes late to class. It’s all such bullshit. (The punishment was two days of in school suspension.)
Give a warning and expell the boy for the AI image instead. That does a hell of a lot more damage than a light smacking.
If the story is true it would be overly excessive for both to be expelled. Also the boy who seems to be 13 years old as well. That’s just very young. But then again I’m from the socialist paradise Germany where we don’t think it’s appropriate to throw kids into prison or ruin their lifes otherwise :)
I’m from Europe, too. Kids are expelled from school for less than this. He absolutely should be expelled and have to have mandatory counseling. A slap on the wrist will just show other kids they can get away with sexual harassment and abuse, and make it even worse for the victims.
Just for you: He is 13 (in words: thirteen).
But demanding draconian punishments is always easy of course.
At 13 I could tell right from wrong. 13 is young, but old enough to know better than this. And expelling someone for sexual harassment/abuse and giving them mandatory counseling isn’t draconian. What’s draconian is that girls and women have to deal with this type of abuse and have people like you wave it off like it’s not a big deal, because boys will be boys.
What’s draconian is that girls and women have to deal with this type of abuse and have people like you wave it off like it’s not a big deal, because boys will be boys.
Where did I state that? That’s just a strawman. That I don’t think one should ruin a very young and potentially immature person’s life doesn’t mean I don’t think that behavior should be addressed. But please enlighten me how expelling someone makes that person a better member of the society?
Sure but the problem is being expelled from school potentially ruins their entire adult life. There should be a better way of handling that includes appropriate punishment and remediation, as well as support for the victim, and still sets the kid up to become a functioning adult member of society
There have to be more answers than either expel them or accept their behavior, and the school district needs to be tasked with finding one that both ensures justice and their role of helping kids become responsible adults
While I wouldn’t advocate accepting this behavior there’s got to be a better way of addressing it. Sure, the victim shouldn’t have to deal with the accused, but there’s got to be a way of teaching a kid a lesson that doesn’t ruin their entire future. That kid has their entire adult life ahead of him and it is in all of our interest for him to become a responsible, upstanding, contributing adult
Simply expelling a kid is a failure of the school system as much as it is a failure of the kid
There are the obvious comments about trump being a pedo and all but I think there is also another subject at play here
The US loves to apply zero tolerance policies. Thesr sound impressive, “zeeerroooo tolerance, we will do everything to stop the bad guy!” But in reality it’s just virtue signalling without doing anything about the real problem.
Zero tolerance policies make it that the institution doesn’t have to deal with any real problems. A student is a potential problem? Expel them, arrest them, get rid of them. This way, you don’t have to deal with anything and fuck that student, who cares about them?
A 12 year girl writes on her desk that she likes a clasmate? Arrest her with handcuffs and all and throw her in jail. (True story)
A girl doesn’t do her homework? Send her to something that effectively is a jail. Why spend time to support her, try to figure out what are the causes behind her problems? Just get rid of it. Eto tolerance, baby!
Somebody at school or work get bullied forever and finally snaps and hits back? Investigating WHY would take up resources, time, effort, it would cost money that can go to the shareholders and the CEO. Just fire that person, problem gone. That the bullies remain is not a problem, who cares about that? That that, over time, makes ymthe environment in your organization more and more toxic is not your problem.
I see all these US mass shootings done by young kids and young adults, and I just wonder. I know that the easy access to guns is an enormous issue that a handful of assholes don’t want to fix, but these zero tolerance policies too have a lot of influence on this, I think.
The USA needs to start dealing with their problems instead of just expelling and jailing every person who has a problem
I hope her parents took her out for pizza, ice cream and signed her up for a kickboxing class. Because I would be proud if she did that, honestly.
She asked them to stop, the school did nothing. Well, then it’s time to handle it yourself.
If I was her dad, I’d be asking to take candid photo of the staff that took that decision, for no particular reasons, and see them stumble. But apparently “boys will be boys” remain strong :/
I think it’s time to start actually protecting and caring for children instead of using them as a scapegoat.
Zero-tolerance policies.
Usually the effect of these policies is that a kid who’s getting bullied puts up with it until he can’t anymore, then finally fights back and gets suspended. Same thing here.
Personally, I don’t think we should encourage violence, but I also don’t see a problem with letting kids fight it out. He was lucky all she did was hit him.
I hope they win the lawsuit.
I have a feeling it was the oh-so-popular “0 tolerance” policy that she was punished and he wasn’t. Because the policy didn’t cover what he did. And schools these days love to avoid accountability or being adults when it matters.
Honestly? Not being in that school anymore is probably a good thing, especially for her. Record be damned; not one single fucking thing that i went through in school went on to matter to anyone but me. And unfortunately all that stayed relevant to me was the trauma. so, yeah, I’d say NOT being forced to suffer in that concentration daycamp full of shitbag crotchgoblins who hate her is an improvement.
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Good for her.Furthermore,
I hope her ex-classmate never forgets that punch and re-lives it every time the thought to deepfake porn of someone resurfaces.A very big issue with our education system is that there’s no nuance in it. The way the system is set up makes it so that schools are incentivized to compete with each other to please the district, and the district to please the state. That’s how they get their funding. What this leads to is schools putting their best interests ahead of their students. If schools prioritized the students, they would’ve taken the context of the story and punished the bully and not the victim. However, since they prioritize themselves, they tried to keep the story under wraps to avoid bad PR, and expelled her regardless of context so they can distant themselves and save their image.
Girlboss energy
What kinda bum fuck school is this, I wanna say that but it’s usually the affluent rich areas with fuckery like this going on
Girls and women always get punished for standing up for themselves at least that has been my experience
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The “hitting a classmate” part seems less important than the “expelled” part in this context. I wonder if they have a zero-tolerance for violence policy.
