“Evolution?”
The irony of this being Soviet anti-war propaganda is not lost on me.
If it comes to war with Russia I half expect my country to just immediately surrender in exchange for a personal payment of 5 whole rubles to each member of whichever political party is in charge at the time.
Hungary?
From the satellite evidence I’ve seen of Russia’s military stockpiles, they’ve basically run out of their war chest of tanks, APC’s, and artillery pieces, with most of them having been blown up in Ukraine.
Their ability to create new ones is limited and slow, meaning they are extremely weak militarily, and I very much doubt they’d be able to wage an effective war against NATO in 4 years, as the general in the article suggests.
Most of those tanks where outdated shit from the 60s. Their only propose was to be stockpiled for russiaboos to jerk themselves off. Anyway, drones have reshaped tactics so much that i doubt that those tanks would be usefull for anything today.
Militarily russia is disastrous, but they still hold a few cards. They do have a nuclear arsenal and they really want us to believe that they are stupid enough to use them in case of need. They have a solid net of spies, mostly around ex USSR countries and they pretty much found the way to weaponize our ellections. Also… they dont have any problem rising slave armies and throwing them at us…
What about russian allies? China and India? I dont see them fighting with russia at the cost of what that could mean for their economies… but what if?
And in our side, our governments are fragile and slow to react and… maybe im wrong in this one cause, while being part of the west, im pretty god damn far from the frontline, but i feel that in general we really don’t want to fight.
Anyway, drones have reshaped tactics so much that i doubt that those tanks would be useful for anything today.
Drones (which also have their limitations) have made the old tanks specifically much less useful, but armored vehicles are still dearly needed in that conflict, especially APC’s (you can’t easily acquire and hold territory if you can’t get troops to that territory quickly and safely), and those are in very short supply, as evidenced by many videos of Russia now using motorcycles, golf carts, ATVs, and old cars for assaults and troop transport.
they still hold a few cards. They do have a nuclear arsenal and they really want us to believe that they are stupid enough to use them in case of need.
The same could be said of EU countries with nukes, but I’m not sure how that’s relevant in regards to them attacking the EU, as they can’t realistically use their nukes offensively without triggering mutual destruction, and no country is lining up to invade Russia to trigger them to use those defensively.
They have a solid net of spies, mostly around ex USSR countries and they pretty much found the way to weaponize our ellections.
As effective as their spy and propaganda network is, I don’t think they’d be able to get enough EU member states to get to the point of basically disarming themselves and welcoming a Russian invasion force.
Also… they dont have any problem rising slave armies and throwing them at us…
You mean North Korean soldiers? Jong-Un sent a relatively small number of troops over (30k out of their 1.3 million strong army) in exchange for technological help from Russia, and because it offered an opportunity for the North Korean military to get some combat experience. It is extremely unlikely they would commit a significant portion of their military to helping conquer the EU when they’re always so paranoid of South Korea invading them.
If Moscow manages to force a ceasefire in Ukraine, I’m not sure they can go back to peacetime production without collapsing, so they might be forced to continue to build offensive capacity. Europe, on the other hand, would be happy to pretend we’re back to normal, and if you add Russian psyops and American unreliability to the mix it’s not hard to be pessimistic.
Until China teams up with Russia, which they have already tested the waters of in Ukraine. Coming from the US, the biggest problem isn’t Russia. It’s the ability of any normal politician to accurately gauge them as a threat. If they are around in 4 years, and the Ukraine war hasn’t wrapped up, China and Russia will move to take over Europe and destroy what’s left of Democracy in the world. The US might even help them if we’re still being run by the orange pedo and his cronies at that time.
At this moment, Europe’s the only real democracy left on the planet that can’t be taken over through social media targeted ad brain washing like the US. But once the EU is off the map, every country run by a dictator or capitalist is free from EU regulations, scrutiny, and trade restrictions. So the US and or China would not hesitate to join Russia in destroying the EU if it means profit line go up.
The problem isn’t Russia, it’s doubting the greed of other nations that can and will work with them.
To add to that, western “democracy” is on the ropes. Supporting Israels genocide has cost them most of their credibility-- whether they were bullied into it by the US or not. The very concept of “Democracy” is hardly what we would have claimed it was even 20 years ago. And capitalism is in a stage of gross excess with no signs of fixing itself. Fewer people are willing to pick up a rifle and die for that.
How do you figure the China/Russia combo are going to overcome Europe still having nukes? That they’ll just gamble that no one will have the guts to use them and roll across the border?
The entire weight of the Russian military and decades of surplus are struggling to incapacitate a single, relatively poor country that’s operating on table-scrap military hardware that the wealthy EU countries are willing to part with. China are propping them up because it’s both highly profitable and politically expedient, but if anything, Russia has shown that they’d be the equivalent of Mussolini’s Italy if they became involved in a larger conflict; a liability that needs to be bailed out time and time again after constant fuck-ups.
I could see China making a go for Taiwan, but all of Europe? I’d have to see some much more concrete data that shows they’d be able to survive economically losing the EU as a trading partner during the course of such a prolonged conflict.
I agree on just about everything, except:
At this moment, Europe’s the only real democracy left on the planet that can’t be taken over through social media targeted ad brain washing like the US.
I wouldn’t be so sure:
I can grant that the UK isn’t “Europe”, but this kind of mentality is rising all over.
I’d also say that it’s really about billionaires subjecting the working class to their will. I think they salivate at the idea of Chinese or Russian type government, implemented everywhere. Unruly or undesirable populace? Round the whole lot of them up and send them to a work camp! Hell, they are already doing that in the US with amendment 13. Not too big of a leap if they are already rounding people up and deporting them to random ass countries they had no affiliation with.
And if they get their data centers built, they’ll be able to “parse” through all this data they’ve been collecting and storing on us for over a decade now. That parsing will be AI based but will it really matter if it gets it wrong and the wrong person gets caught up in it?
What if they wage an ineffective war that still kills millions despite them losing because their delusional leader wants his name in the history books before he dies?
If there is a peace in Ukraine, the grinder against the Russian military stops. The fear is that Russia will maintain it’s wartime production and conscription. Two years of stockpiling drones, ammunition, and actually training recruits. One might not worry about armored vehicle production when Russia makes over 5,000 shahed-type drones a month.
https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/monthly-analysis-of-russian-shahed-136-deployment-against-ukraineNATO has never intended on fighting Russia without the US, and with the US acting like a fair weather friend, European politicians and likely NATO may be concerned.
Just a reminder that Russia’s GDP is basically the same as Canada. If Russia actually went against the EU + Canada its going to be fucked.
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But what about real life economics? Do you think Russia can afford less military buildup for 1 million versus US?
Obviously. But judging from their meat grinder in Ukraine, quantity doesn’t not equal quality. They are not the USSR anymore.
Counter point. The people who aren’t in russia want to live, so it can be harder to get them fighting.
Counter point the people in Russia want to live so it can be harder to get them fighting.
They seem to not be putting up too much of a fight while being conscripted.
Not sure anyone really knows to be honest.
Yes, this is how it works: first you minimize help to Ukraine to prevent prices grow at 0.76%, and then you start preparing to war and risking economical shitshow. It is called “Realpolitik”
People who promote Realpolitik are always the most bitch ass turncoats ever. It’s not pragmatism, just cowardice.
