• Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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      11 months ago

      I fully agree. I am a user with a bit of technical background, but not a lot of detailled knowledge about the inner workings of an operating system (i know boolean logic and basic programming structures - in Pascal lol - from the 90’s, what a transistor does and stuff, how to build my own PCs and handle filesystems and troubleshooting).

      With init scripts, i hit a wall pretty fast.

      With Systemd i know how to start, stop and configure services, and the suite built around it uses the same conventions everywhere, making the everyday life with Linux for someone like me so much easier and more transparent than ever before.

    • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      Have you considered that just “reaping old process IDs” wasn’t enough responsibility for an init daemon on a secure, robust system? That maybe it should be protecting other parts of the system and tracking the liveness of a desired service?

      What is the benefit of specifically doing that in init?

      If I see an argument like this then I can only assume the interlocutor doesn’t do software engineering.

      Its more likely that the user simply has simple needs like running stuff at startup which any init system can do and doesn’t see as much benefits as poster.

      Also who loves systemd-resolved?

      • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        Being able to assign a nameserver per interface with a domain wildcard is a fucking godsend. I use it every day with a hook script because my job uses some private domains but I don’t want to send my entire DNS history through the VPN. Now ~job.com goes to tun0 and that’s the end of it.

        systemd-resolved is not perfect but with libnss’s overly rigid nature the only alternative for my use-case would be to recreate similar functionality to resolved with dnsmasq – which is just objectively worse especially when you want to use DHCP sometimes but not always. Why reinvent the wheel? resolved does its job and does it well. I had some issues with it a few years ago but have been using it for the past couple years without complaint.

      • Cenzorrll@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        I just had an issue with the vscodium flatpak, been using it for two months with no issue in an online course, got to learning GUIs, import module, doesn’t exist. I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t there, installed three different python versions of it three different ways, still nothing. Couldn’t even get vscodium to point to a different interpreter that I knew was there (yet it doesn’t say it’s not there, just that some things won’t work). Still nothing. Three hours later, after trying everything I could think of, I realized that it was because I installed the flatpak version when it clicked that it worked in Geany and I didn’t have python 3.13 in my repos, yet that was the only one I could see in vscodium.

  • ronflex@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Systemd has simplified my life on a few occasions, and it seems to be reliable from what I can tell. At the end of the day if I can get the OS to do what I want in a relatively simple matter, that’s all I care about.

    • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      In all seriousness, I’ve yet to encounter a situation where Systemd made any meaningful negative difference in my Linux experience.

      I’ve never had problems with any init system, Systemd or otherwise.

  • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 months ago

    I still don’t get what you guys have against Windows. Bill Gates has done so much good for the world.

    (My body is ready.)

    • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned
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      11 months ago

      Bill Gates actually was pretty cool, it’s windows after Bill Gates that’s terrible. I can’t say there was anything Bill Gates did that I didn’t like, he was like the Gabe Newell of operating systems before steamdeck.

        • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned
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          11 months ago

          I don’t think this statement is controversial and besides I own sex toys lol.

          Bill Gates was actually cool. The only bad thing he ever did as far as I’m aware, was lock direct X into windows. He even spends all of his time now in charity work and funding science. I think he was a great guy. This is why windows used to be the best operating system. He was smart and not overly greedy. He didn’t care for spyware or corporate espionage on citizens. Windows was a relatively open system. Not as open as Linux, but very open and good, and it had excellent tools and a really good user interface. Now windows is terrible, but this is after he left Microsoft.

  • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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    11 months ago

    I don’t get the systemd hate. The most common complaint I see is that it’s too bloated, but Arch uses it, so what gives? Is it just that people dislike change? Like Wayland hate (not Wayland frustration)?

    • PiraHxCx@lemmy.mldeleted by creatorEnglish
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      11 months ago

      From what I heard, people hate systemd because Linus Torvald was approached by the NSA to create a backdoor on Linux, he said it wouldn’t be possible to change the kernel because there were too many eyes on it, there was a mysterious hack of kernel.org introduced a mysterious code but it was spotted and removed… well, what was the only other thing common to all Linux? The sysv-init, but it was too small, too tight, too specific for them to create a backdoor there, they needed something big, bloated, doing way more than it should do, like it was just supposed to start the system but it can also do unrelated stuff like handling DNS, and an American company shows up bringing systemd, that solved all the problems the NSA had to create a backdoor on Linux, and all distros jumped into the honeypot :)

  • Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    I would replace grub in a heartbeat with systemd if it a feature like grub-btrfs (boot time snapshots for btrfs all in the GUI)

  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Listen, we’ve all done it.

    We all have bash or fish or zsh aliases to do it in command.

    We all love the feeling of a pulsing phone in our asses.

    But we don’t talk about it.