Australian beef has replaced U.S. supply in China since Donald Trump returned to the White House, funnelling hundreds of millions of dollars that have in previous years gone to the U.S. cattle industry into Australian pockets.

U.S. shipments to China, worth around $120 million a month, collapsed after Beijing in March allowed permits to expire at hundreds of American meat facilities and as Trump unleashed a tit-for-tat tariff war.

Other U.S. farm exports to China, the world’s biggest food importer, have also suffered since Trump retook power. On soybeans alone, U.S. farmers have lost out on shipments worth billions of dollars during the current harvest season.

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    I don’t care.This is actually better for the environment.With a smaller ecological footprint.

    This is america where we pay our farmers to grow stuff that they can’t sell. And we think we like it this way

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      This is america where we pay our farmers to grow stuff that they can’t sell. And we think we like it this way

      We pay them to do that so we have a surplus so we all don’t starve… every country does this so if there is a bad year, you don’t have farmers stopping production because they can’t survive and have to sell everything.

      No clue why they vote red though, considering they get a ton of subsidizes.

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        I have family farmers in Iowa. This is a bull shit take. They make so much corn because usa says so, but the corn the grow can’t be eaten by humans. It’s cattle feed.

        It just sits. And you gor wit for 30$/acre or you try to free market and go broke.

        It’s an extremely inefficient system and non of that food goes to USA citizens. Which is why you have no citations for that comment.

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          That corn is grown so they have money for when it’s needed.

          That corn also goes to feed beef cattle which we eat.

          https://usafacts.org/articles/federal-farm-subsidies-what-data-says/

          They’ve been doing this since the great depression in the usa because no one wants another great depression. Other countries do it as well to keep the food supply stable and affordable.

          I don’t know why you’re arguing this.

          No one says it’s efficient. You don’t do efficiency on your food for your citizens. You make sure they can eat.

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    US cattle inventory is at a 70 year low anyways.

    https://downloads.usda.library.cornell.edu/usda-esmis/files/h702q636h/nz807x85h/1g05hb55x/catl0725.pdf

    Meaning we couldn’t keep up with global markets anyways. Let other countries take on the ecological destruction that comes with trying to export meat. Every have a feed lot next to your water supply or a processing plant in your town? We need to fall back to smaller domestic market where local butchers are actually needed to supply their communities and not large grocery stores.

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      Listen dude, if you want to get the uparrows you gotta say how this hurts America, maybe a little #fucktrump, et cetera.

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        Uhhhhhh what. America not selling beef over seas hurts America in the short term. That’s too much beef for just America. Our beef is worse quality anyways.

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          My preferred beef, personally, is from local farms, and so I’m all about the idea about smaller farms. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t buy from factory farms, chicken, beef, and pork, but I try to go local when possible.

          Although as I’m writing this, I’m really not sure if local meats and their prices are affected much by the factory farms.

          So yeah, I guess all I mean is that I’m totally cool with an America that has fewer factory farms, the operations, from top to bottom, seem to thrive on just terrible conditions, environmentally and all. And I’m also cool with the massively wealthy families who own these farms maybe feeling a squeeze.

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      in global shipping, closeness actually doesn’t make things necessarily more eco friendly: when you have 100 ships full of cargo heading from china to the US, they’ve got to return too… either they return full of something, or nothing

      i’m not sure how it all works out in this case, but slowly moving things from the US to asia is practically free, in pretty much all regards