Totally something healthy presidents do.
I have a bottle of prosecco ready.
I only drink American Champagne in cans.
I will tune out of these news unless it’s a confirmation of his death.
Same. Everything else is me becoming sad cause he is still alive at best. Or getting angry cause I fell for click bait again at worst.
Anyone else wonder why they would hold off exiting him? It's obvious he's more useful in office than out. But, it's inevitable that he will exit the office sooner than later, and they clearly have a plan to replace him. My nagging thought is. why wait?MAGA is a bunch of different groups with mutually conflicting agendas. Libertarians hate tariffs, anti-vaxers don’t like that Operation Warp Speed did its job, and Christian Nationalists hate just about everyone. What keeps them from fighting each other is Trump, and Trump alone.
That’s how cults of personality often work. As soon as the personality in questions dies, all this infighting shatters the group. Rarely, a cult of personality can convert into a cult of ideas, but it’s very difficult to pull off. Mormons did when Joseph Smith died, but for every success story, there’s 100 more little cults you’ve never heard of that never worked out after the leader died or went to jail.
They cannot replace him. They can try, but it’s almost certainly going to fail. Trying to replace him before he dies would only make the fracture even more severe, because now his name becomes a rallying cry for the “true believers”.
Which is why all the factions are trying to get their agenda advanced as quickly as possible before he croaks. The techno-feudalist side had the advantage with their boy JD poised to take over but removing him is much more politcally viable for the Christian nationalists in congress
I totally agree with all of this about Trump’s voters, and at this point I’m 100% sure that if you beamed us back into the 2024 Election, Kamala Harris would win by a landslide.
BUT I think the White House itself is rather unified. Sure, the Republicans may never have the support of the majority of the USA, but they don’t need to win another election. All the Republicans need is control of the military, which they can stuff full of young, hateful men who have been groomed into rage and thoughtlessly following orders… which is already underway.
JD Vance, Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, Kash Patel, Peter Thiel – they’re all united in their Christo-fascist beliefs. Hell, if Trump had mental capacity to do more than sign the documents placed in front of him, he would probably be the biggest wrench with their plans. In his first term, Donald Trump openly countered Mike Pence’s statements on key Republican issues like gun rights. In this administration, Elon Musk was the most “out there” from the rest in being a libertarian 4chan incel manchild, but he’s now entirely out of the scene.
The MAGA voter base may never be as supportive of the regime as they were in 2024, but that’s not going to matter unless that fractured voting base pulls off an effective insurrection.
I’m 100% sure that if you beamed us back into the 2024 Election, Kamala Harris would win by a landslide.
America will never vote a woman as President. Woman and not white? No fucking way. We like them pale, male and stale, preferably rotting.
It’s not just about voting. They need to rule the whole narrative around them. Otherwise, members of Congress start building their own factions to oppose specific things, and Democrats will strategically ally themselves to one or another on specific bills.
Literally nobody is in favor of Trump’s tariffs besides Trump. That’s him driving it, personally. There isn’t even a real base for that beyond “whatever Trump wants, he gets”.
They can’t pursue their agenda without some kind of populist support. They need a base that will automatically back them, and then have Enlightened Centrists insist that base has something useful to say. Voting doesn’t play into it.
I really doubt Congress is going to start forming factions. Republicans are all in it for the grift, except for a handful of looneys that really believe what they say (and, to their credit, are working on the Epstein files). Most Republican Congressmen do not care about their representees, definitely not enough to stick their own necks out. Two Republicans dissented on the “Big Beautiful Bill” purely based on spending concerns, which is the entire Tea Party Republican viewpoint. Two.
Your scenario also assumes that support of Congress is needed. The White House already has their Gestapo, ICE, as well as the actual US Military. They’ve broken Supreme Court orders, some of them unanimous 9-0 decisions.
I do believe the White House will continue to play along with Congress for as long as Congress obeys, them – just to preserve the veil of normalcy. Should Congress actually attempt to impede the regime, they’ll be ignored, or if deemed preferable, taken out.
We’ve seen the military attack citizens, seen ICE arrest members of Congress, and we’ve seen MAGA hold state legislators hostage. The same country that tormented innocent civilians in nations like Iraq, has turned its guns on its own. To assume that any legal action can stop the regime is to utterly ignore reality. There was nothing legal about George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan. The US Military does not follow the law, it follows orders. The Constitution has been shredded in every sense but literal. The only way one can believe we have any protection is to presume that “it would never happen here”… in the face of “it” happening here.
I really doubt Congress is going to start forming factions
It already has factions. They couldn’t even pick a Speaker of the House without causing a ruckus. Republicans are united around Trump, and only Trump. They can’t decide if the Speaker should be more libertarian, more Christian Nationalist, or just straight up MAGA faithful.
Your scenario also assumes that support of Congress is needed. The White House already has their Gestapo, ICE, as well as the actual US Military. They’ve broken Supreme Court orders, some of them unanimous 9-0 decisions.
Only because everyone says “let Trump do whatever he wants”. Nobody else can take up that mantle. Someone will try, probably Vance. He’s an idiot who doesn’t have anything like Trump’s ability to appeal to a certain kind of person, and will fail. Hard.
To assume that any legal action can stop the regime is to utterly ignore reality. There was nothing legal about George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan.
They still had to play the game where Congress authorizes it. It was only “illegal” in the sense that international law forbids it, and international law isn’t quite as clear cut about enforcement mechanisms. It’s more like a series of agreements between nation states, and those agreements can get tossed. Especially when the guy with the biggest hammer (the US) decides they can be tossed. Nobody was going to do anything substantive against the US for that.
The Constitution has been shredded in every sense but literal. The only way one can believe we have any protection is to presume that “it would never happen here”… in the face of “it” happening here.
I’m not assuming anything about the Constitution whatsoever. At its most basic, politics is coalitions of people who try to achieve certain goals. Voting and a constitutional republic are just means we’ve traditionally used for structuring that. Coalitions form without any other structure being present, and can fall apart when a central leader goes away. In a scenario where Trump dies and Congress is still around, Congressional Republicans will fight each other trying to be on top. No reason to assume they will form around a new leader at all.
I recall that happening, but I would note that the division in the Republican Party was between MAGA and the “Tea Party” fiscal conservatives, the latter of which have all been branded “Republican In Name Only” and cast out. This division was also why the MAGA plan to refuse to certify the Electoral Vote on Jan 6th, 2021 failed. I’m not talking about the insurrection – there was a genuine argument being made to try to overturn the electoral votes of several key states that voted for Biden, with passionate arguments made for and against completely rigging the election in Trump’s favor.
That speaker debacle was during Biden’s term, after the ousting of Kevin McCarthy specifically because Kevin McCarthy was one of those fiscal conservatives. The Republicans did eventually elect Mike Johnson, and I don’t see him getting kicked out any time soon.
We can not cling to this vision that the Republican Party will collapse in on itself. It’s a nice thought, but us waiting around is exactly what our rulers want. There are US Military soldiers and secret police agents on our streets right now – Today – trafficking people right now. Every day that we continue to play this routine, participating in the corporations and institutions that engineered and empowered this crisis, the USA and the corporations and the Christian Nationalists all get what they want.
A General Strike could put some strain between the corporations and the politicians, but that’s a movement that each of us must partake in. Right now, big business including Silicon Valley, as well as the Christian Nationalists, are quite content with the status-quo.
Sone of y’all never been in a cult, and it shows.
You’re missing how much these people all hate each other. I’m not counting on the Republican party collapsing. I’m saying it’s inevitable. If you understand how cults of personality work, it’s quite obvious.
I don’t consider it the best possible outcome, though. What probably happens next is closer to European-style democratic socialism. I’m an anarchist, and I consider that to be weak sauce.
Why is this a code block?
Why aren’t you?
Be the change you want to see in your choice of breakfast cereals.
They lose him, they lose what’s left of maga. There’s no replacing that.
'“A real journalist would have refused to do the interview.”
– one of the first few commentsAnyone else think that they will pull an Edith Willson and try to ‘weekend at Bernies’ for as long as possible? Haven’t seen the comments below, so this has probably already been brought up.
His corpse will be paraded around long enough for Steven Miller et al to implement as much fascist bullshit they can to sieze enough power. Then trump will be worshiped as the second coming of Reagan for the next 50 years. Republicans love idolizing those you cause the most lasting damage to the county.
Doctors hope that if his condition improves by next week, they can declare him dead.
He might have to go back to the NIH to save his life again and oh… nevermind.
We have reached “need daily photos of President holding a copy of today’s newspaper”.
Don’t tease me! Nothing would please me more than waking up to his obituary. Then we need to get the next Nuremberg trials going, ASAP.
I suspect the challenges won’t end with Mr Trump out of office. I think he’s part of a larger machine, and I fear JustDance Vance will pick another questionable leadership candidate to match himself and the pain train will keep on rollin’.
The good news is if Trump passes soon Vance can only run for one term.
Hegseth will be his VP.
Drink!
On X, however, CNN viewers speculated that Trump turned to his keyboard to avoid being seen—if it was even him sending the texts at all.
Autopen?
if its on CNN and the dailybeast, it’s kayfabe
Til kayfabe. You’re probably right
Thanks for including the link. I forgot the courtesy. Good netizen, you!
Can i get a different source? Ah fuckit. Here.
Jesus that’s fucked up. Howard Hughes fucked up.
…you linked Daily Mail as an alternative source??? lmao
idk if you know but they are a tabloid rag everyone should avoid
I’ll be honest, the search results were slim pickings. Which is also sad.
Because outside of this rag, it’s not a real story.
Always fun to see who ignored the links completely but felt compelled to comment
no worries lol not everyone can be aware of everything. yeah DailyMail is garbage… it’s ok tho.
You should take that as a hint to wait for a more reputable source to run the story.
I mean it’s CNN, so. Point taken.
I thought we were talking about The Daily Mail.
The daily mail story is about a CNN show. I mean CNN is pretty trashy but it’s hard to argue that it didn’t happen.
The OG interview is in the link. I didn’t wanna link to CNN proper as, well, why give them clicks for airing a text conversation?
Fair enough but dailybeast blocks anyone in the EU, so I just get Access Denied because they can’t be arsed to support GDPR.
Huh TIL
This source might work better for you.
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