Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?

@[email protected]

What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?

Mass instance bans

Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).

Done

Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).

Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

He has abused the modlog to claim ‘harassment’, which I have never engaged in. I have not even interacted with Rimu in any way for days prior to getting kicked from the PieFed developer Matrix channels.

He has decided to mass ban 20 users because they have spoken out against his erratic and hostile behaviour as of late.

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      I’m out here posting commie shit every day and getting into fights about it. But occasionally I take a peek at MoG and I’ve never seen my name there, it’s always just Cowbee this and Cowbee that. Now I don’t even make the blocklist.

      What am I, chopped liver?

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          They loathe you because they can’t dismiss you without doing a bunch of reading they otherwise wouldnt do

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            I tend to agree. If I were more aggressive, then it’s easy to dismiss me as a troll, but I deliberately choose not to do that.

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          I’m pretty sure any interaction you and I have had was about as luke warm as yesterday’s tea, and I think even that would be more heated than any interaction ive had with rimu. I think I once commented about someones preferred pronouns not being used? Eh, whatever.

          Apparently I’m wayyyy more ban worthy than you.

          Edit: I want a sticker to commemorate this event.

          Edit 2: Oh, and for the record I think it was something like “they prefer x”, and you replied with “whoops, let me correct”. I don’t want to imply it was some sort of negative interaction and give folks the wrong impression.

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          I honestly wonder if they ignore me because I’m meaner. But who knows what goes on in their heads.

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            I suspect it too, I frequently have to revise my comments to tone them down before posting (and even after) because I know confrontation just turns people off of productive discussion, but I think this causes cognitive dissonance in some rather extreme reactionaries. Few people mildly dislike me, it seems either varying degrees of neutrality or positive views, or otherwise extreme hatred. Just what I’ve noticed.

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            Honestly it’s probably the amount of text. A few of the people who got banned are dyed in the wool multi-paragraph to full book of text posters. Cowbee and Staments being the absolute gods of this.

            I bet that list is just a stack ranked list of numbers of words in threads they didn’t like, and Rimu just banned line the top 50.

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              No one has ever accused me of not posting walls of texts before 🤣

              I think you’re right about it being about a specific thread though.

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      Is my name on the list?
      Yes Sir
      Sh…
      Oh, but it actually has a different surname
      Phew

      You see, surnames are important. With them, you get a working fedilink, instead of a broken one.

      (I don’t care about the drama. I just saw users getting caught by this bug.)

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        [email protected] is the former admin of lemy.lol. It’s also a bit odd because Piefed.social defederated from lemy.lol over their logo and Iso has told Rimu to go fuck himself a few times over it. The fact that he decided to block him here and now is telling because it proves its a personal hitlist and not coordinated harassment as he wants to claim. Otherwise, why wasn’t he blocked prior? And even then, why block an account now from a defederated instance?

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          That’s really funny. Probably means rimu is maintaining a personal shit-list and decided to just copy-paste it to piefeds banlist.

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            I think this is accurate, and I believe based on the evidence Rimu is sharing it with other instance admins to try to push a universal ban list.

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            I’ve got no other explanation for why he’s banning users that he has already defederated from. The only way he could be coralling that list is if he’s looking at stuff from another instance and attempting to control the narrative for other admins.

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    The only thing I’ve ever said to him was pushing back against his criticism with screenshots of evidence that proved him wrong.

    He is not removing people for a coordinated harassment campaign. He is removing people to silence dissent and exert a stranglehold on his platform and his own ego.

    PTB is, quite literally, not strong enough. He is an active danger to the entire fediverse as a whole. He is dragging down credibility of any instance that runs Piefed and has proven that not only is he a manchild incapable of regulating his own emotions and ego.

    Piefed has become Chernobyl levels of radioactive. You can keep running a Piefed instance but you better expect questions on why you’re helping to further this narcissistic psychopaths control and influence.

    It’s also kind of strange that [email protected] is on that list. They’re a former admin of lemy.lol who had beef with Rimu but Rimu defederated from lemy.lol a while ago over their logo. The fact that he’s banning that user in amongst all the others kind of proves that this is a personal hitlist and not harassment. Otherwise, why are you banning a user that you’ve defederated from?

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      He is dragging down credibility of any instance that runs Piefed

      No one who runs Piefed had credibility to begin with, it’s a tantrum in software form, developed for the sole purpose of owning the tankies

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      Piefed has become Chernobyl levels of radioactive. You can keep running a Piefed instance but you better expect questions on why you’re helping to further this narcissistic psychopaths control and influence.

      Yyyyyyep this

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        Haha….hahahaha….hahahahahahahahaha

        Have you seen the developers of Lemmy? You want to talk about radioactive and furthering narcissistic psychopaths.

        It’s just part and parcel of what’s created. Doesn’t mean we subscribe to what they believe in, just the software.

        There’s most likely parts of Linux that are merged from tankies, communists, terfs, bigots and all other manners of people you don’t agree with. Are you gonna stop using that. No, it’s functional, open source software

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          Show me a crashout this bad from the lemmy devs over being called mean names and other instances moderation practices.

          Imagine the reaction if the “tankie” devs put in a default blocklist of the libbest instances, or default domain blocklist of 3000 entries you’d have to unblock one-by-one or had any piece of lemmy vibecoded or made a “harrasment” blacklist (in the original sense of the word) and shared it publicly… Like you can directly compare the nutomic reaction to being called a transphobe to rimus reaction to him thinking he has been called one…

          Or imagine a tankie version of mog that had yesteryears drama threads still pinned, or an instance admin who’s dedicated mission was reposting stuff from the bad instances using their many many alts in order to starve them out of interaction

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          Have you seen the developers of Lemmy?

          Yes I have, they’ve said + done some problematic things. If that was a constant, ongoing and current pattern of behaviour, I’d be agreeing that running Lemmy instances would be a questionable pursuit.

          There’s most likely parts of Linux that are merged from … people you don’t agree with.

          Running an instance on Piefed isn’t like being a user. It’s the equivalent of running whole servers using a problematic Linux distro. And yes, I will and have stopped running Linux distros on servers, both personally and at work, due to problematic ownership over the distros.

          If someone started running all their servers on a distro with shitty verbiage in it, whose developer kept hardcoding all their personal vendettas into it while using their authority over the project to ban users and side with people adjacent to fascists, I would (quite rightfully) question them about it. I would also doubt their beliefs. cant-prove-it

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            Nope just pointing out that it’s a pointless schoolyard squabble. You can take the drama off of Reddit but it’s still gonna be here it seems. Started with tankies, moved here. I just laugh at it all. I’ll keep enjoying my content and popcorn.

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          I have had many conversations with people all across the fediverse, and I do not believe that I have been banned by anyone for my existence in a thread aside from rimu doing that just now.

          And you can feel free to see what my comments in that thread were. Do any of them come across as inflammatory?

          Lemmy devs have also said some pretty damn problematic things, and despite my commenting on them in the past, I have yet to have a bad interaction with those very same folks.

          It would seem rimu is taking things to a level far beyond what the fediverse has seen so far.

          So, I’ll be seeing if there is anything I can do for pievolution instead.

          Edit: sorry, I did have another interaction, where rimu made claims about llm use that were clearly made up and I commented as much. Rimu then replied with “why was it on me to report about it then”, to which I said “because its literally nothing so no one cares”.

          So I’m assuming that plus my very existence in the other thread was the trigger.

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      As some rando who considered piefed due to the problematic Lemmy devs, I agree. The stuff I’ve read about it has turned me off of it, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

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        You could always come to Mbin instead. I’m glad the worst controversy we’ve had was kbin’s lead dev’s early reactions and actions towards the Mbin fork. Which is hardly relevant anymore.

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      It’s ironic because he’s so concerned about the Lemmy devs. I know I’ve personally called out nutomic before, and we had a respectful conversation, but ended up disagreeing. Rimu does it shamelessly and without respect and then expects everyone to sing his praises afterwards after he forces his perception on everyone else.

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    Those users are probably going to end up in a banned list hardcoded in the program.

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    PTB, he banned me for screenshotting the public group chat.

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    Rimu’s also banned people who never interact with Piefed.social like myself simply if people like PugJesus make harassment posts about them (which feddit.org and blahaj.zone followed through with too). This is more blatant as it’s even less targeted and includes people I’ve never seen break any rules, like Edie.

    From MeanwhileOnGrad, against me:

    ableism, misgendering

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      Ah cool, siding with PugJesus, one of the most obsessively weird and hostile online bullies I’ve seen… I honestly just assumed they were a long-gone weirdo, but apparently they’re still doing their thing.

      If it isn’t already, this method of moderating inevitably ends up with your instance being full of nazis. Piefed.social not looking to have a happy future.

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        Yea, a lot of non-fascists join Piefed.social because it’s the Dev instance, especially because Piefed is so heavily promoted on Reddit, but over time people tend to leave to better instances if they don’t agree with Rimu and his gang of bullies.

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        Thanks! I try to be more chill, people being at each other’s throats isn’t very productive for learning so I try to balance it out. It does go to show that those opposed to leftists will despise you no matter how you treat them or others if you’re consistent.

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        Nah, I don’t even use blahaj.zone communities so it isn’t too big of a deal. It was a full instance ban. As for Ada, I assume if I got banned, it’s because Blahaj.zone agreed with permabanning me, though they haven’t permabanned others that have done the same as me, just ones PugJesus and Rimu seem to hate in particular.

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          It kinda sucks because I usually use my blahaj account to interact with the larger fediverse which means I don’t see your informative replies…

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            Yep, that’s the biggest downside to being banned, if anyone on Lemmy.blahaj.zone goes to Lemmy.ml they won’t see what I post there (or anywhere). I try not to tell people how to run their instances and whatnot, if they decide their red line is defending the communist interpretation of historical tragedies from liberal historiography then me getting banned is a matter of time anyways.

            It’s just important for those instance-shopping to know where blahaj stands on these subjects, ie against communists and for liberals.

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              That sounds like a win for Blahaj.

              Honestly all you ever do is copy-paste propaganda text and defend states violently suppressing civilians because you try to claim they were secretly all CIA Nazis or defending Russia invading Ukraine because NATO exists so it’s fair that civilians die. You personally are probably one of the worst things about .ml.

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                  Well can you tell them to stop talking shit about Blahaj? I’m sick of always having to censor myself for tankies when they never return the favour.

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                If copy and paste is the only thing required to dismantle your tired red scare bullshit then that’s 100% your fault, get new material

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                I don’t believe this is an honest assessment of me at all.

                For starters, I don’t think it’s necessary for me to hand-craft a unique response to common, low-effort arguments against socialism or socialist states. If I have addressed an argument before, I find where I’ve responded to it before and frequently copy and paste, as I believe quality responses are more effective than unique ones.

                Secondly, on the topic of “propaganda.” In that what I am trying to do is create more communists and communist sympathizers, I definitely fall into the category of propagandist. I focus on direct conversations with individuals, rather than many individuals at a more shallow and easy to grasp level. This doesn’t mean what I say isn’t factual or based in solid logical reasoning, however.

                Third, the idea that I defend “states violently suppressing civilians because you try to claim they were secretly all CIA Nazis or defending Russia invading Ukraine because NATO exists so it’s fair that civilians die.” This is, frankly, horseshit. I’d like to see examples, because I definitely have shown evidence from a myriad of sources for genuine lynchings of Jews and communists by Nazis that the Red Army stopped, and I’ve never tried to say the deaths of civilians is justified because NATO exists. I’ve explained the origins of the Russo-Ukrainain war as it traces back to the 2014 Banderite coup, and the ethnic repressions in the Donbass region kickstarting a civil war, but I’ve never justified the deaths of civilians, much the opposite.

                If I’m “personally probably one of the worst things about .ml,” then I shudder to imagine what you believe to be good.

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                  I’m asking you both now to drop this. Stop shit talking blahaj and engaging in slap-fights. This is not in-scope in this comm.

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                You see, they’re are allowed to shit talk safe spaces, people aren’t allowed to defend themselves from the people who shit talk and invade safe spaces. That’s only fair. Queers can’t stand up for themselves, that’s liberalism.

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      what’s with this desperate cry for attention from him lately?

      Not enough people are patting him on the back for being the lead dev of yet another fediverse Reddit clone. So now he’s forcing people to recognize he is the supreme ruler of his little corner of the fediverse.

      Piefed, more like Piefief.

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      Like everyone during their evangelical/liberal phase, he has a massive ego and believes he must be the most morally correct and ethical person and everyone that disagrees with him on absolutely anything must know that he is correct and is just trying to bring him and others back down to the tar pits because they can’t stand seeing such a shining beacon of light and morality.

      This is always exacerbated by people specifically on crusades, like someone that hatefucked an entire fucking piece of software into existence because he hated the idea people were more progressive than him because they were more well-read and informed than he was capable of making himself, and certainly more than he was himself when he formed his political opinions.

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        Having gone through something very similar to this myself, ‘round about 15 years ago -> Fuckin’ yyyyup.

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    Soooo hes killed piefed with consistently idiotic behaviour. (I’m being kind here)

    Hopefully the fork takes off and saves the project.

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      Hopefully any popular fork unwinds its ActivityPub deviations and works with the greater fediverse community going forward.

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        ActivityPub compatibility has never been a problem with Piefed, and in fact we are collaborating very well in private. Of course Lemmy doesnt yet support all the features that Piefed has, but thats not their fault.

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          Oh. Multiple times I’ve heard that it has unilaterally broken ActityPub rules, but I never investigated exactly how.

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            Not that I know of, but I also haven’t tested Piefed nor followed the development closely.

            Recently there was a case where federation of Piefed Feeds was incompatible with Multi-communities in the Lemmy dev version. It would have taken me a lot of boilerplate code to make these compatible, for little or no benefit. Rimu agreed to change it on the Piefed side instead, much easier.

            A few days ago I read read about some blocking or hiding feature in Piefed that is incompatible with Lemmy. That might be inevitable if Lemmy simply doesn’t support that feature. In the end there will always be some degree of incompatibility on the Fediverse, because every software has very different priorities.

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                While JSON-LD is part of the ActivityPub specification, Lemmy doesnt use it at all (and afaik neither do Mastodon, Pixelfed, Peertube etc). Instead Lemmy uses JSON and Piefed is probably the same. We do provide the JSON-LD definitions which that comment complains about, but they have also often been incomplete.

                Honestly I dont even know which Fediverse software uses JSON-LD. It doesnt seem useful to know “there is something called an Accept activity” when you dont have the UI logic to display them.

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      I was going to make a fork, governed by the users to ensure PTB features weren’t present.

      Is there already a decent fork, to save me time?

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        Since this is the fediverse, and we are up against some crazy shit, as far as this picture goes, I say “Hail Hydra.”

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          Yeah, but do we want to be read as harassers?
          I follow the disengagement rule as soon as I am requested to. Doesn’t “ML” instances do raids/agit spams?

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            iirc hexbear has had a ‘disengage’ rule since before even dbzer0

            Doesn’t “ML” instances do raids/agit spams?

            not as far as i’m aware; i moderate on [email protected], which is for all reactionary content and even has a rule against going after federated instance mods/admins. lemmy content is a small fraction of the content posted there and when it is posted, half the time there’s going to be someone complaining in the comment section about how they don’t care about other instances at all classic

            obviously cross-posting something will get people who want to comment engaged, but people cross-post things on the fediverse all the time, it’s kind of the point of a platform like this

            also the meme image i posted was just a joke, people are always throwing around accusations about other posters being alts and yeah they’re all alts, my alts! ahaha

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              1. Thank you for answering.
              2. I am aware you were joking. But be aware how it reads to folks traumatized by harassment. Within the context of this thread, I immediately comprehended it was ragebait. But others not as literate and nuanced, may read this as “I‘ll make as many alts as I want until Rimu relents to our demands!”
              3. Wild to read someone read/experienced うみねこのなく頃に.
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                Wild to read someone read/experienced うみねこのなく頃に.

                beatrice is iconic, i definitely relate to her a bit doggirl-sweat

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                  I only know her, because my wife asks me to play 黄金夢想曲†CROSS, much to my 😵‍💫

          • If Rimu was banning people over personally targeting him that would be a valid concern. He isn’t. Making new accounts to spread counter-programming to his userbase is not harassing him. It’s only harassment if one makes accounts specifically to contact him.

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          I did, I even read it again when I saw the meme! I didn’t rub it in anyone’s face so I don’t think I’m a socialist tho.

          Did the 3rd read make you communist or is it when you start smugly beating people over the head with you reading list? I prefer sci-fi fantasy.

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            i mean you did kind ask for it this time.

            i was an anarchist long before i read settlers, it didn’t really change my politics, just heightened my distaste for the united states

            sci fi and fantasy is fine, i also like trashy stuff on ao3 and visual novels

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    Hi. Admin of lemy.lol here who is also on that list.

    I have made 5 comments in total and have not commented in the matrix channels. I have also made a single comment about Rimu. This.

    Rimu is incapable of handling basic criticism. If an admin is such a threat that a single comment about him constitutes a ‘coordinated harassment campaign’, then Rimu and Piefed.social must be defederated en masse. We at lemy.lol would do so if he didn’t defederate from us over his perception of a frog.

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      A bit off-topic, but Pepe does raise my hackles, and has for the last dozen years, ever since #gamergate. Ex-Groypers will see it as an invitation to a Nazi bar.

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        Given how ubiquitous Pepe is as a template for emotes in places like Twitch, I argue that Pepe was taken back by the gamers as a mascot.

        Now, because gamers are gamers I also don’t fault anyone having reactive doubts about usage of Pepe. But I don’t think those doubts are license to action without some burden of proof.

        Posting frogs itself means nothing. The content of the frogs means everything, including dogwhistles. He’s not a dogwhistle himself anymore, just with exceptions to that rule, like the specific groyper one.

        He has been granted the title of having reasonable innocent use, but he has not been extended the rank of not having problematic associations.

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        That’s why you’ve got to use Pepe while being vehemently woke, to make it clear bigots aren’t tolerated

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    This confirms everything I said about piefed months ago. I even made a piefed account and brought up concerns, only to be told the “anti-tankie” controls were for everyone’s own good.

    Sucks to suck.

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      I don’t know. But it’s gotten to the point that I don’t trust any piefed instances anymore at all. Rimu pushed a piece of code into Piefed a few days ago specifically to silence criticism against him and to silently delete/block posts on Piefed. He is exerting such an extreme amount of control onto the entire platform itself that I cannot trust the platform itself.

      Every piefed instance, as far as I’m concerned at this point, comes with an enormous asterisk.

    • I think it was largely people reactively hating on the Lemmy devs. People were claiming Lemmy’s developers would push opinionated changes to the codebase and ruin Lemmy. Funny and ironic that this problem happened to piefed instead, and @[email protected] was the one we needed to worry about in the first place.

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      Because we can no longer sit back and allow Tankie infiltration, Tankie indoctrination, Tankie subversion and the international Tankie conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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      I was told they liked the features and now just may not want to migrate.

      Neither really looking like great long term options at this rate

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        we’re actively working towards a fork right now in certain private chats. and by we, I mean the FAF and some allied admins and users. we’ve been discussing how that would be organized atm.

        the intention is to first remove problematic shit Rimu added, then begin adding features we want to break away from his influence at all.

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          I’m biased after looking at the code by just thinking it needs a rewrite more than a down stream fork.

          Or I’m thinking too much in terms of rhel os dev

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            well I was working on one and called it pievolution, but I’m mostly versed in design and HTML/CSS, not in Python. so I’m gonna table that and instead help out Mia with her fork instead. hers is called pylova.

            if we’re gonna make a serious push for a fork away from mainline piefed that doesn’t depend on manbabies, I would rather somebody with more Python experience be in charge.

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              Just as a thought as to why I don’t trust piefed as software and would probably not use a server running it, I believe piefed is rather poorly thought out based on this thread which I dont have the expertise to know how true it is, but also the now infamous “this”-checking function which should be a regex gives me real doubt as to the expertise in putting this kind of software together. Checking if a string is equal to “this”, “this.” or “this!” by declaring them a set and seeing if said string is in that set is such a backwards way of doing. And that’s just right there on the surface, god knows what lurks beneath?

              Lemmy 1.0 is getting plugins which can be programmed in python as well, wouldn’t that be a better idea long term? Rather than forking from a dev who is actively hostile to you and wants his software to be so as well? Also I think that if more instances then switch away from piefed to your version that his fragile ego wouldn’t be able to take it and he’d ragequit the whole project leaving you all to maintain it.

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                For people already running PieFed instances, starting from scratch today isn’t realistic compared to a hard fork of their current codebase.

                And that’s just right there on the surface, god knows what lurks beneath?

                It’s Python. It’s not that hard to find out.

                Also I think that if more instances then switch away from piefed to your version that his fragile ego wouldn’t be able to take it and he’d ragequit the whole project leaving you all to maintain it.

                Yes, a hard fork would entail maintaining a codebase ever-more divergent from PieFed over time. Anyone serious about forking should consider how much work it would be embark on an independent path.

                Alternatively, perhaps people will build a PieFed to Lemmy converter, because switching platforms while keeping the existing users, communities, and conversations intact is hard.

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                  Yes, a hard fork would entail maintaining a codebase ever-more divergent from PieFed over time. Anyone serious about forking should consider how much work it would be embark on an independent path.

                  nothing worth doing is easy.

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                I just commented here on that thread, its really not a big deal. Using regex for string matching also sounds fine. On the other hand Piefed is a smaller project than Lemmy, so it has less testing and reliability. In the end it depends on your own requirements whether Piefed or Lemmy is better.

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                Also I think that if more instances then switch away from piefed to your version that his fragile ego wouldn’t be able to take it and he’d ragequit the whole project leaving you all to maintain it.

                well, judging from the conversations we’ve had, our end goal is a software diverged enough that we’re the ones maintaining it because he has nothing to do with it. some of us have unused servers lying around the house, so we’re setting up platforms as we speak for testing. there’s currently several people who are planning to take part in the development, but that number might go up when we “officially” announce the fork later.