Talk inside the White House about invoking the act has ebbed and flowed since Trump took office again in January, said the five people, who include the senior administration official, two people familiar with the discussions and two people close to the White House.
But the debate inside the administration has shifted recently, from whether it makes sense to invoke the act to more deeply exploring how and when it might be invoked, both people close to the White House said.
Did anyone else see that weird interview on CNN with Steven Miller clamming up à la Mitch McConnell after he mentioned that Trump would have “plenary authority” i.e. dictatorial powers?
Unless I’m mistaken, plenary authority is granted to the president when the Insurrection Act is invoked.
So… Is this an attempt to push that through quickly now that the cat is out of the bag?
Tell me you want a General Strike without telling me you want a General Strike.
Insurrection act invocation = pedo king gets hanged
The irrational behaviour of ICE and the deployment of national guards is clearly setting up to agitate and provoke the ordinary Americans into drawing first blood to justify invoking the Insurrection act. Don’t fall for this my American brothers and sisters. You don’t want to be the Southerners this time who attacked Fort Sumter.
“first blood”
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Judge Juan Merchan deserves even more of the blame. His dereliction of duty, brazen favoritism and special treatment of Trump has directly resulted in all of this terror. When the loiusettes are erected, he should face them alongside the fascists he empowered.
And people are going to die because of this incompetence
The main reason Biden was a democrat is because where he lived he had to be a democrat to get elected. He’s even farther to the right than the DNC.
I don’t think there was enough evidence to pin anything insurrection related on Trump specifically.
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They could have nailed him on inciting a riot
The defence would just quote this
I’m not arguing Trumps intention. I’m just saying that proving insurrection is not an open and shut case.
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Insurrectionist traitor skirts punishment for treason against the United States, becomes president. Again ffs. And proceeds to invoke the Insurrection Act as a prelude to implementing martial law and becoming a full fledged dictator.
All because the Dems didn’t want to “seem political”. Mmmmkay.
The world is laughing at us.
Laughing is the wrong word. The world has lost all respect for us. But also, most Americans have lost all respect for their government as well.
Nah, the dems are complicit. Anyone with 2 neurons to rub together saw this coming. The reason they didnt prosecute is because theyre busy trying to find ways to secure themselves in the new regime, not antagonise the new god-leader. The Dems are straight up evil, only differentiated from the fascists by the fact that theyre too scared to actually do anything impactful.
Oh, we’re not laughing.
Well a bit in the beginning because of the absurdity, but yeah, now it’s just sad and terrifying.
Are you taking refugees?
I’m Canadian and I’m quivering in fear
Because the Dems are just the same billionaires but in blue.
People need to realize that Trump is 50 years in the making. He was not the first to put “undesirables” in camps and arrest people based on racial profiling. He’s not the first to give tax cuts/subsidies/bailouts to the rich while the cost of living gets progressively worse. He’s not the first president to bomb countries without Congressional approval.
These trends are accelerated by Trump, but will continue after he’s gone because they are systemic.
Why don’t all criminals just run for office? They can’t be sentenced then, that would seem political
Oh no no, you misunderstand.
You must also be rich and white. It’s not political to lock up poor or minority political candidates, even if they aren’t criminals.
I’m not sure how this is the dems fault, but okay.
Trump is hitler stupid, and it’s the dems fault.
I’m not sure the specific blame the above commenter is referring to, but I blame Democrats for two things.
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They failed to recognize and truly fix systemic problems because the actual solutions aren’t market-oriented.
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They dragged their heels on prosecuting Trump when he was out of power long enough for him to escape any liability and ultimately establish… this.
JFC, do you really think that peace for a long time led them to believe that the republicans would go full on nazi? No one thought this would happen to this extreme. Stop fucking blaming the victims, which is the American people.
Trump and his republicans are NAZIS.
Actually, a lot of us didn’t fail history & have functional pattern matching abilities.
has eyes
Saw this coming
Guys I’m a fucking genius, i bet next we will find out the sky is sometimes blue.
I mean, I’ve been calling it since around 2012.
The Hilldawg/DNC mugging of Bernie Sanders in 2016 confirmed to me that there were no good guys, just different sides.
Most popular Presidential Candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the ballot in either of them. I’ve had conservative coworkers who’ve told me that they maybe didn’t agree with Bernie but he’s one of the few politicians they TRUST. That’s rare and a squandered opportunity.
No one thought this would happen to this extreme.
No, it was actually pretty easy to imagine when:
- Trump told people to “find votes” for him;
- Trump had himself pre-emptively certified as the winner in some states; and
- Trump used stochastic terrorism to incite a riot outside a government building, as a response to his impending loss of power.
All of that screams “power-hungry facist”, and the predictable outcome of someone like that regaining legal authority, obviously, is an attempt to transition towards fascism so they can retain that once-lost power indefinitely.
And he told people they’d never have to vote again. And Project 2025 forecast what would happen if he won but people wrote off that publicly available document as a delusion of the left
Also, The Annoying Orange told everyone he’d be their “retribution”. If people heard that and were confused about what that meant for most of the country, I don’t know what to say.
Lots of people foresaw this and tried to warn everybody and we were written off as irrational fearmongerers
A lot of us thought this would happen if Trump won again. I don’t think any of us thought it would get this bad this quickly, but definitely within his 2nd term.
Just to be clear, when I say I blame Democrats, I mean I blame the Democratic party, the Democrat leaders (Pelosi, Schumer, etc), and their apparatus. I can see how you thought I was blaming voters, but I assure you that’s not what I meant.
And yes, I agree. The GOP are officially fascists by virtually any definition of the term.
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The Dems put ‘decorum’ before sanity. The DOJ in the new admin should have gone hard after Trump and his henchmen on January 21 2021.
Because the Dems allowed open treason to fester. Trump literally should have been executed for crimes against the state.
Instead he was let off with zero repercussions and allowed to pardon the insurrectionist mob. Terrible consequences have ensued and will continue on.
There is no low the Republicans can stoop to that won’t result Murc’s Law being a thing.
The Republicans could be at the shoving people onto trains phase and there will still be a certain type of individual trying to blame the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans…
If a gang of criminals is causing trouble all over town and nothing is being done to stop them, I’m gonna be mad at the criminals and also mad at police, prosecutors, and judges for not doing their job and stopping these people
The structure of your post implies that people shouldn’t be angry at the Democrats?
Critical thinking sold seperately
One reason it’s the Dems fault …
They should’ve forced Biden to stick to the one term and immediately supported and pushed Harris as the candidate.
Or better yet, actually held a primary.
Someone should do it.
Biden. Too late, but at least we gave a shitload of money to big construction companies.
And that’s how the 2025 US Civil War will begin.
Americans won’t do shit (they are currently being fucked and are cheering this on). You are delusional.
Depends on which state, hence civil war between blue and red states
Still won’t happen. The child rapist in chief has done many shitty things -in general- but recently to the american people and their constitution yet fuck all, FUCK ALL, has been done to him or his Gestapo cronies. Fuck all…except a, haha, ‘protest’ a few months ago.
If they can’t do more then go outside once every few months to wave a few signs and have a nice stroll then a civil war will never happen.
It just won’t happen. It won’t. Most are obviously too lazy, too complacent, too scared to lose their mollycoddled way of life to put any effort in. Well, other than tut about it on the internet. And maybe make a meme about it. Possibly throw in a few "See, we told you this would happen"s along the way. The demented geriatric tangerine is the usa’s new king and almost no one has the spine to do anything about it.Some Americans aren’t as excited as you are to engage in the bloodiest civil war yet seen that would likely drag the world into ww3.
You definitely need to be more dramatic and about all these fairytales of americans actually standing up to the orange buffoon.
Anyways, tell me, why will the world get dragged in to ww3 (lol, as if) because of a civil war that will never happen?
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.”
That said, the opening battles of the revolution were five years later.
The White House expects that any potential invocation of the act would be met with swift legal challenges and ultimately land at the Supreme Court.
So, an unsigned 6-3.
Or more likely bumping it back to a lower court while only addressing one small part of the issue, while making no stay on the behavior so they can continue while it takes years to wind through the courts and eventually not matter when they have already usurped power.
Civil war is looming more and more everyday. If I was American I’d be so scared and angry right now.
Can confirm, I’m terrified and furious
Yup.
Terrified, angry, disappointed, despondent, hopeless, disgusted, in disbelief.
So many fun emotions! 🩷
Note: if you are FBI and reading this: insert the next floppy labeled ‘how much of a great, capitalist loving, good Christian
fascistultra nationalist I am’ to learn more!Nah, im ready for the roundups. Fuck Trump, fuck the administration, and fuck all the corporations and organizations that are deepthroating his gangrenous rot. Each and every one of you will get your under the new regime just as i will get mine. The american people failed to act when you had a chance, and now were all going to suffer for a very long time. Shouldnt have licked the boot.
I am apoplectic my pancake brother.
Looming? It’s already happening. National Guards have invaded blue cities.
I’m Canadian and I’m scared. I have little faith the American people will successfully revolt. Who would lead?
My guess is some combination of Pritzker, Walz, and AOC. Gavin too, though I hope his political star falls into the sea. Kinda like Churchill.
In any case, America is a big nation. It is too big for the MAGAT serpent to swallow. So long as the entire leadership of the Blue States isn’t decapitated in one fell blow, resistance is inevitable. Considering the clumsy and brash nature of the Turdpublican, the only real advantage they have is sheer unthinking aggression. If they miss the opening blow, I think their fate is sealed.
This gives me such revolutionary war vibes. The “fathers of the revolution” were not revolutionist, they did not want independence from Britain, but wanted thier legal rights upheld. The monarchy feared what they might do and so sent soldiers after them labeling them as revolutionist. Thier message then became one agianst the monarchy, tensions continued to escalate and well, revolution.
There is not an insurrection, there is not armies of rebels fighting to bring down the federal govermemt… but start a war agianst people and eventually they will stert defending themselves, then we will have a war.
That movie “Civil war” was very optimistic in hindsight
Kinda graceful looking at it from a “now” perspective. Oh well, they always say the camera adds -10 years of progress.
I’m pretty sure Trump is going to use it by 2028 or just before it, in a prelude to declaring martial law. Right now they are trying to escalate conflicts in order to have justification. When they don’t have it, I assume there will be false-flag operation to trigger one (see January 6th).
Right now they are worried about the 2026 midterms. As unpopular as Trump is, they will be a bloodbath for the GOP. There is no way they wait for 2028.
You have way more faith in that statement than I think you have any right to considering all that is already happening.
I at least have lost all faith in the American people ability to vote for something rational
They’ll time it for 2026 if they’re ready. They can’t let Dems have an ounce of power to preserve democracy
There’s absolutely no way he lives to 2028.
I don’t think they’d abandon their program if Trump kicks the bucket. This is bigger than him. If the right loses power during this mandate, they may not regain it for a long time and they may not be able to criminalize the left to the point of preventing an FDR 2.0 being elected in the near future.
From your lips to god’s ears my friend.
That reminds me, where the fuck you at god? You’re just gonna let this bullshit continue?
The gods abandoned mankind long ago. We are only looked after by the weavers of fate, oh how they loathe us.
Epstein files, you say?
End of the year is martial law. It ain’t gonna matter.
When Latino people are being killed in concentration camps, congress is dissolved, and protestors are shot dead, people will say it’s a distraction from the epstein files
