“How does an argument over a television program end up with a murder, an attempted murder and a suicide?” he said.
BECAUSE HE HAD A GUN ASSHOLE.
No one that fucked up should be allowed to own firearms.
How about we just stop doing sports? I remember the transgender sports thing, before that there was drug use in sports, to the point where smoking weed (not an athletic performance inhancer by any measure) could get athletes banned. How about we just ban sports. That seems to be what these conversations are leading towards anyway. It’s not just guns, because sometimes men who get emotional about sports will beat their families to death or something.
Or, maybe instead of banning sports, we still do sports, but everybody has to be naked like in ancient times, or maybe not naked but wearing a giant sign that says “I’m a douchebag” and when someone signs up for a sportsbetting site a paid intern just comes to their house and kicks them in the nuts
Sociology class I took ages ago mentioned a very strong correlation of domestic violence with football team performance. Basically in the state that the winning team belongs to, their violence rates dip, and the team that lost gets a surge of husbands assaulting/murdering their wives.
Humans are really shitty animals.
One study published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics found that domestic violence rates increase by about 10% on days when NFL games are played, particularly when there are unexpected outcomes or high-stakes matchups.
Wow, Thats beyond margin of error. Wtf ppl?
A lot of people are getting drunk while watching.
Don’t blame humans for what football fans do.
Tom Brady is a hero in Massachusetts bud
Those poor kids. The presents under the tree were the last gifts from their mom they’d ever receive. Thank goodness the mom had the awareness to send her son out of the house, and that the baby was unharmed. No matter where they go from here, the older kids, at least, will never be able to look at Christmas the same way again.
If ONLY she had Killed him FIRST this WOULDNT have happened And that’s LITERALLY the Only Way to have Prevented that!
Only thing that can stop a bad dad with a gun is a good daughter with a gun. Checkmate, Obama.
it mentions that there was a history of abuse that went unreported to the police. I suspect changing that could have prevented this, too.
If he had a history of domestic violence it would literally take only one of those to be reported and have him charged with. All his guns would be taken from him
The logic of that has never made sense to me. If you’re taking his guns away it’s acknowledging that he is a significant enough danger to others that he can’t have access to weapons. If it’s already gone that far why not lock him up to keep him away from the people he is a danger to? It’s not like he couldn’t go on to harm them with some other weapon in the future.
Because there is a greater threshold of due process needed to imprison someone (like a conviction in court of law) rather than disarming them.
But why is that acceptable? They’re either dangerous or they’re not. Removing their guns doesn’t remove their ability to do harm. It only removes one specific method. How are we arriving at the point of taking their guns if not via a conviction in a court of law?
Literally everyone is a potential harm to others regardless of if guns are involved. You’re talking about delving into massive gray areas and applying black-and-white logic to them. Someone with anger issues shouldn’t have a gun, but they shouldn’t be in prison either. Same deal with people with mental health issues and children. No one should have a gun imo, but confiscating them on a case-by-case basis is a better solution than the jack shit some groups would prefer to do, and it shouldn’t only happen in criminal cases.
There is a big difference between “anger issues” and having demonstrated that you have so little control of yourself when you’re angry that you assault/murder someone. Those in the second category should not be allowed to go about unsupervised until they get their shit together. I’d say the same thing about children and people with mental health issues that prevent them from being responsible for themselves. I’m not saying control isn’t appropriate here. I’m saying it’s not sufficient.
I actually wasn’t referring to this case when I mentioned anger issues. I used it as an example of a common trait that a person can have while also wielding a weapon, which is insane to allow. Obviously someone who demonstrates the capacity to harm others shouldn’t have firearms either. But it shouldn’t even need to get that far to begin with. Sounds like we agree on this point.
Oops now she gets stabbed with a kitchen knife and bleeds out painfully
People are much less likely to actually use knives than guns. And if they do, their target has a greater chance to get away.
Ah, so guaranteeing the patriarch has access to firearms is really an act of mercy for his victims.
But why guns? What about syringes of phenol? Make sure each man has one for each family member so he can perform painless honor killings. This seems like something a healthy society would do.
Guns are either kept in a locked box/rack, or on you/close at hand.
Knives are found in the kitchen. Ive never seen anyone put down a gun in the kitchen and just walk away from it for half a day
is this the “well regulated militia” that everyones talkin about?
No, no, that argument fell apart the moment the “well” “regulated” 2A “militia” stepped aside and let fascism in. Now they’re just tacticool cosplayers.
And now we got the paramilitary gravy seals showing up in jungle camo to kidnap tu abuelo in the fucking Walmart parking lot.
Holes drilled in the ground to access water should not be managing firearms
Is the “well regulated militia” in the room with us
America has a mental health crisis
America has a gun crisis
If America didn’t have guns it would still have massacres. Something like driving into crowds or taking sharp objects into public spaces.
Removing guns is like taking shoe laces in the psyche ward - it isn’t solving a problem but making other opportunities more apparent.
Harder to pull off, though?
Not really. Plenty of places have high gun counts without the high violence count. There’s something wrong with us, specifically.
I expect to see more of this.
Conservative women’s brains are fucked because they needed a sense of belonging and all they had to choose from were scumbags.
I’m not blaming the women. It’s just the reality when a substantial amount of them get sucked up in the MAGA bullshit.
Family annihilators do not always make the national news but it happens a sickening amount. Typically a male spouse.
It wasn’t a “shooting” it was a NRA sponsored Freedom Celebration™
That’s Polk County FL in a very sad nutshell.
Jeez, getting kicked out of the UCP hit Kenney hard.
A few emails like “hello, I want to know the name of the officer who was helping me regarding me getting shot by my dad after he shot mom and tossed her into the lake” and he could be presidential! Welcome to the future!
Lately, I’ve been wondering if it’s possible to provide photo or video evidence in court when AI can easily create the highest quality evidence out of nothing… So this person is not generated?
heres a down vote me comment…ya know, id be ok if prohibition of alcohol came back
Last time it was tried the homicide rate went up by 13% …
Well im a bit suprised that smuggling increased it that much but numbers dont lie
some historians speculate that the total number could have continued to rise due to the increase in criminal activity associated with the illegal alcohol trade.
Homicides were trending up leading into it, perhaps there were other factors involved as well.
He was also using coke according to the article. Prohibition didn’t stop him from using that, there’s no reason to believe it would have stopped him from drinking either.
I quit drinking a good 10 years ago. Once you stop drinking and realise how weird alcohol culture is and how it’s somehow everywhere and everything is just better without… Fully agree.
I still drink.
Mainly responsibly. Once or twice a year, if even, I’ll go overboard, but otherwise it’s a one or two drink thing.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s a great social lubricant but I have no idea how you can be an adult that gets hammered drunk on the regular.
It’s by far the worst drug in the world and turns people into fucking morons. I’ve learned a healthy respect for it, and know how spectacularly wrong things can go when you overindulge and the flaming trail of wreckage the drug causes isn’t worth whatever fleeting moments of pleasure getting carried away causes. And I’ve internalized that hard.
Im not gonna downvote you, but the cocaine use may have also been a factor here…
But then we would have to start bombing Venezuelas booze boats.
Where is the news value in this article? This and similar scenarios are equally common to people taking a dump in the morning, maybe make news about that too.
What a sorry stats of affairs that this kind of thing is so commonplace that you can’t even muster a modicum of sadness or empathy for those involved.
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That really isn’t any more reassuring a sentiment.
Damn, these comments kind of turned into a giant circlejerk of “guns bad” and “USA bad”
