He’s not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he’s just sparkling child molester.
Holy shit this is an underrated comment .
Bravo sir.
He’s quite the vintage. I hear 79 cock is magical. It dissapears!
*rapist
I’m pretty sure they named the pedo region of Epstein island after him
Megan Kelly follows the “if you’re old enough to bleed, you’re old enough to breed” playbook.
Her child should be removed from her custody.
Holy shit they’re actually doing the hebophile bit
Yeah, but it’s impossible to explain without sounding like a pedophile…
Life imitates art as one of our favorite Gianmarco shorts comes to life
TIL hebophile and ephebophile, two words I didn’t want to know existed.
It is a useful distinction when considering possible rehabilitation. In general conversation it’s just weird.
The best explanation I have seen was that it’s like death metal sure there’s varying types and styles within death metal but at the end of the day the only ones who really care about those distinctions are death metal fans.
(My apology to any death metal fan offended by the comparison)
All sub categories of reprehensible creep
I don’t think a 20 year old dating a 17 year old falls into that category but it would fall under the legal definition you’re referring to in many states. That’s the problem with drawing arbitrary lines, you usually end up labeling some things incorrectly. That doesn’t mean you get rid of the line but understanding the context is still important.
That being said, there is no amount of context that will lessen the creepiness of a 50+ year old man serially preying upon 15 year old girls. That’s disgusting and I find Megyn Kelly’s invocation of this defense to be indefensible. She should be ashamed of herself if she were capable of feeling shame.
Yeah of course a 20 year old dating a 17 year old is fine…we all know this isn’t what they are talking about…it’s disgusting people trying to justify someone old enough to be their parent or grandparent…
Maryland has a system in place to protect teenagers…the age of consent is 16 (which if you’re over 21, shame on you) but there’s a 4 year sliding clause, so for example if your 17, a pissed parent cannot charge you for having relations with their 14 year old, if all was on the up and up.
I’m in my 40s and anyone under 30 is too young.
Being sexually attracted to 17 year old females makes someone a reprehensible creep?
Most straight men probably fit into that.
17 year olds still tend to be physically less developed… But even if they’re not, if you’re more than a handful of years older than the 17 year old, having a sexual relationship with them is still exploitative since they’re still mentally (both emotionally and reasoning abilities) immature.
I agree.
But being attracted to someone is distinct from having a sexual relationship with them. I can be attracted to a married person, a mentally ill or incompetent person, or even a minor. It’s not necessarily wrong unless I engage with them.
Especially when the age of consent in half the states of the US is 16.
I mean it’s kind of important to be more mindful about the choice of words in general as many people say pedophile but mean child predator.
There are many people born with that attraction to kids that never act on it or even actively seek help.
The whole “let’s call everyone a pedophile” is doing more harm than good as it creates a huge stigma preventing people from looking for help.
That said: they are 100% not caring about that at all and just moving the goalpost…
I do 100% agree that the concept of having hugely varied terms for pedophile, and say the term Minor attracted person, and get really sick of hearing people lash out on when the term MAP is used to say “You just want to protect pedophiles”.
No I want people who have the urge to abuse children, to get treatement and never act on it and live peaceful happy lives where they never harm an innocent person, and to me that is far better of an outcome than a child being abused, but supposedly it gets made up for by the abuser getting tortured in prison.
I don’t know. Can’t we just stigmatize it to the point where their only recourse is to turn to faith and try to live a life of celibacy and denial? They can all become priests or something. That’ll help them with the internalized guilt while they’re at it!
uncomfortable catholic church tugs on its collar
I don’t think priests go celibate. What you’re suggesting would likely result in a lot of child molestation
I’m sure god wouldn’t let that happen. Let’s just give it a try for a few hundred years.
Perhaps it’s a personal failing but I generally don’t care why somebody doesn’t abuse minors, I only really care that they don’t abuse minors.
If the person has never acted on it, then there isn’t really anyway to know and he wouldn’t be labeled with it.
I guess we could be more accepting of people that just download pictures, but downloading those pictures is acting on it, and shows that they have trouble controlling it.
I get your point, and that it isn’t always their fault, but the link between both words seems very justified imo.
Except that people who have not acted on it and are seeking support in continuing to not act on it are afraid of identifying themselves as pedophiles because the association, even amongst mental health professionals, is with the action and not the thoughts.
Ya, that’s a fair point.
I’ve never heard the word hebophile and I bet a lot of people haven’t either. Sometimes when unfamiliar words are introduced as part of a story or event, they become a central part of that story and forever linked to it. Maybe people should use it more regarding trump.
I really wish I lived in a world where psychiatrists could spend time inventing terms for people who prefer rogue-likes versus people who prefer rogue-lites instead of this shit.
I learned about hebophilia yesterday and today I started wondering if I’m supposed to be pronouncing ephebophilia as “ep-hebophilia” or was i right saying “ef-ebophilia”
It’s only paedophilia if it comes from the pedophile region of Alabama. Otherwise it’s just sparkling ephebophilia.
goddamn this fucking talking point is spreading. Just yesterday I was watching a video where some maga piece of shit was questioning a streamer about why he thinks its wrong that adults rape 13 year olds. Pretty soon we’re going to have absolutely no choice except physical violence.
for ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ovted6/we_breathe_the_same_air_as_these_people/
This talking point is very popular among the right wing libertarian guys who are so offputting they cannot date their peers.
It’s also popular among Christian fascist theocrats who want to be able to date and marry children.
It is spreading for a reason though. There certainly is a difference between raping an 8 year old and a 16 year old. And medically it is defined as “sexual interest in prepubescent children.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19327034/ People have started slinging the term even at guys dating 20 something year old women just because they are 50 or 60. In short, the term has been made into a dog whistle and used were it doesn’t apply because it carries more negative connotations than terms like statutory rape, sexual assualt of a minor, sex trafficking.
Frankly, I think the term has been cheapened by this misuse. Now when people here someone is a pedo, instead of immediate revulsion, they have to ask, “what kind of pedo”. It shouldn’t be that way. All of the phrases should be bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate. So it is more the acceptance that statutory rape is ok that is the source of the problem.
That said, the motives for this talking head to say what she said are purely political. Her words aren’t worth spit.
The biggest tragedy about everyone on the left using pedophile as a dog whistle is that it actually directly harms children in my opinion. Pedophelia is a mental disorder, and just because someone is a pedophile doesn’t mean they have ever or will ever harm a child or anyone else for that matter.
The problem with everybody using the word pedo and creating such a hateful and negative reaction to that word instead of the more proper term of child sex offender or child rapist, is it directly results in pedophiles who want to get mental health help to ensure they never hurt a child, never will and they will just keep it quiet because their entire life will be destroyed if they try to get professional help.
Of course, everybody is always responsible for their actions, but all of you using the word pedo in such a negative and catch-all way directly results in children being harmed.
You all need to use better terminology, like rapist or child sex abuser, not using a real DSM-5 mental disorder to vilify.
I won’t compare it directly to any other mental disorders because I will get a significant amount of hate, but imagine picking any other DSM-5 disorder and using it as a catch-all to vilify, it would be unpopular.
WOW…just…WOOOOWWWWWW
Im sorry, is this a conversation about the degree to which he is a pedophile?
Apparently for his sycophant followers. Absolutely insane.
No, it’s that he was a hebephile instead of a pedophile.
There is a distinction between the two, they are both still fucking bad.
You’re a pedophile defender.
No, I’m not — I was disgusted to hear Megan Kelly try to draw some kind of positive distinction between “barely legal types” and “children”.
Personally I don’t consider the distinction between terms to be meaningful beyond human need to categorize. A 12 to 16 year old is still a fucking child, a 17 year old is still a child. There are plenty of arguments to make about whether 18 year olds are adults.
That being said, nothing about my comment suggests that I support the message they’re trying to portray. Maybe read the entire comment before calling me a conservative next time, ok?
whether 18 year olds are adults
Some would say that holds true until well into people’s 20s
the more they try to come up with new terminology to excuse it away, the more I just put them in the bucket labelled ‘kid fuckers’.
I think that putting enough thought to categorize between hebephile and pedophile is already and upsetting amount of my brain power spent on people who hurt kids.
I have a better thing to call them — castrated. Or dead, I don’t care — whatever prevents this from happening to other children.
I have a better thing to call them — castrated. Or dead, I don’t care — whatever prevents this from happening to other children.
I too dream of a day when consequences are a thing for shitty people. keep hope alive.
It’s the same old defense heard from conservatives everywhere. He’s not a pedophile, he’s a hebephile. Whatever
Are you drunk?
You need to read and reread what I’ve said. Good god.
No they are ust saying there is a difference. That’s why there are two different words.
… And this, my friends, is a perfect example of Poe’s Law.
Reminds me of all the disgusting turds in the courts who went, “Aw it was just a little rape.”
She has a 14 year old daughter
If you tell someone not to fuck kids and their response is “actually 15 year olds aren’t kids” then that person is a pedo.
If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I’m going to think of you as a pedophile.
I don’t know what those words even mean. If in completely honest I don’t think I’ve ever heard of them
Giancarlo has a great joke about it
Says I’m not allowed to watch it without some app I don’t have.
Indeed I misspelled
Gianpolo?
Glanmercator
This is one of the wildest most disgusting goal post moves I’ve ever heard
From the people who brought you pizzagate.
It’s ALWAYS projection.
You gotta remember, ALL of the chips are on this guy, the base hates most of the policy and could barely name any of the cabinet, they’re just there for the figurehead.
Thank God the Right is out here protecting our kids from transpeople. /sarcasm
Let’s be real. The right is “protecting kids from trans people” because they think transexuality is socially contagious and they don’t want to fuck trans kids.
The rates of rape experienced by trans people suggest you’re entirely wrong about that last part.
Sigh. Fair.
Or worse, the trans kids refusing to fuck conservatives. Far as a turdpublican goes, other people exist to be exploited, and a willfully chosen sexual identity can be a roadblock. People developing a personality inherently means having the willpower to say “NO!”.
Ah yes, the “social contagion” theory, out here acting like Dawkins wasn’t full of shit when he came up with memetics
Ohh okay so now we’re going with the “they’re mature to marry once they hit puberty” thing Somalia does. I feel real bad for Megyn Kelly’s 14 year old daughter.
What a POS
When you start making defenses that involve distinguishing between pedophilia and hebephilia you lost a long time ago.
It’s like distinguishing between burglary and robbery. Maybe it makes a difference in the exact length of their sentence but they’re still both serious crimes
Technically, pedophilia is considered a mental disorder. it’s listed in the DSM-V. Pedophiles could be considered mentally ill.
Hebophilia and ephebophilia aren’t illnesses. They are crimes.
What are these words?
Is a square not a rectangle?
Here it begins. Republicans will want to normalize pedophilia.
These people are sick. Saying this is public should earn a person an automatic 48 hour mental welfare hold.
They’re just deflecting from the trafficking and rape part. Call them out on it.
The Narcissists Prayer
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