California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office said the governor was denied entry into a venue at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 21, after being invited to speak at the event due to “pressure” from the Trump administration.

Newsom had been scheduled to speak with Fortune at the USA House, Davos, a privately organized event, at the World Economic Forum, which has been recognized by the U.S. government as the nation’s headquarters in Davos.

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    Yeah and then he ripped them a new one at the event he did speak at in Davos.

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      I would one thousand percent prefer Newsom over Trump and I almost guarantee Newsom wouldn’t send his brownshirts into red states to shoot mothers.

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        Newsome is going to enable the tech billionaires and Israel so basically we will keep marching in lockstep with project 2025 with funny tweets. He has been fighting the one time 5% billionaire tax proposal in California and he vetoes everything that upsets shareholder profit in California.

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          He broke the marriage equality impasse. Without him I might not be married.

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            He protects LG rights and maybe BQ, but he has consistently vetoed T rights. I’m straight AF so this doesn’t affect me directly, but it affects my friends, so I care that he doesn’t.

            To be clear, I voted for Newsome, because the Democratic party didn’t give me a choice. I’d primary him if I could.

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        Yet without popular reform, which he is constitutionally opposed to, they can’t win. Your lesser of two assholes arguments has no answer to the fact that these status quo democrats cannot reliably win. Now with republicans cheating in so many ways, that’s especially true.

        He had his chance in 2024 and he declined to stand up and take the election.

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        He just kneeled and licked the boots of fascist Ben Shapiro, the gap is much smaller than you’d think

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          Yeah talking with a shitty media personality is basically the same as deploying brownshirts and the actual military to American cities

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            If you can’t see how regularly platforming and legitimizing right wing ghouls to your predominantly liberal audience doesn’t create the permission structure that allows for the deploying of various breed of thugs to American cities, I don’t know what to tell you.

            Gavin Newsom is a dangerous man, and should be treated as such.

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              Gavin Newsome is among the last people I’d like to see become president. And yet I’m not convinced just because he spoke with Ben Shapiro he’d support what’s going on now. If we care about the actual facts he’s been outspoken against the use of ICE and the military in American cities and has sued the federal government several times over this.

              So if we go back to the original point, no Newsome would not have done what Trump has done.

              There’s a long list of better leaders that also wouldn’t have done what Trump has done, but the bar has been set in hell so here we are

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                I want to be very clear, he’s talked to way more conservatives than just Been Shapiro.

                He’s agreed with them on their transphobic talking points. He proudly talks about violently breaking up homeless encampments.

                Newsom is already does a lot of what Trump does. He just does it in a way that’s more appealing to white liberals.

                Would he be as overt or crass about it? Obviously not, but that’s not the point. This kind of fascistic scapegoating of the untermenschen vulnerable people, and using the violent arms of the state to deal with them, is unacceptable no matter who’s doing it.

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                  Oh yeah don’t disagree with any of that, but like I said the bar is in hell.

                  To the original point he wouldn’t be utilizing ICE and the military the way Trump is.

                  As for the homeless Newsome would support criminalization, but not murder.

                  For Trans individuals he would support a loss of rights but not criminalization or murder.

                  I can’t say the same for Trump. With him its a ticking clock on when the death camps fire up, and they likely already have under ICE.

                  I guess my problem is saying they are exactly the same when one is very clearly worse. I’d much rather have neither, and truthfully I don’t think Newsome will win a primary (although the DNC is corrupt) and I agree an actual leftist canidate has a much better chance of winning the presidency (assuming elections happen). I don’t think the powers that be will go for that, but here we are in hell

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            Brownshirts were civilians not law enforcement. Law enforcement acting such is like the SS, and SA, not the brownshirts.

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              Sure there’s likely not a direct comparison, but the party has rapidly enabled its own selected force to brutalize a large section of the population with impunity.

              Ao draw the analogy you want, it’s bad though. Couldn’t be much worse

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                The SS or SA is not a bad direct comparison. Brownshirts were the nazi version, the Italians did so first with their blackshirts. Civilian groups, street brawlers, that would target left wing groups, leaders, burn down their businesses, beat them up, shit like that.

                The brownshirts would stir up shit to force new elections all the time and the nazis kept getting more and more votes each election, supported by big business because they were anti socialist. The SS and SA were like the official goons although not law enforcement before hitler’s chancellorship obviously.

                Everyone hated the brownshirts, including those rich that supported the nazis, so after they had control, and consolidated power with the SS and SA able to handle security, they killed all the brown shirt leadership in the night of the long knives, partly out of paranoia but partly to appease the rich that preferred the organized official violence to the dumbass street brawlers.

                That said, Ice is like the SS, or SA, I’m trying to remember but the SA was mostly folded into the SS after they consolidated power but for a while they were parallel law enforcement type organizations controlled by hitler. Except Germany was broke, the USA just gave Ice more money than any militaries in the world get other than yours truly and China.

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            Calling Ben Shapiro a shitty media personality is dangerous. He’s one of the men with the most reach and media influence in this administration. Don’t doubt the power of gobbels

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              Ben became irrelevant years ago, and had certainly been replaced. Not every dipshit republican media personality is gobbels

              I believe his rhetoric was definitely part of the movement that led us here, but he wasn’t the main driver

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            Socialists. And if there aren’t any on the ballot, then spend some time to actually organize your community so that next time there are.

            If the election comes and there isn’t anyone on the ballot you want to vote for, you have wasted your political power.

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            According to a bunch of supposed lefties, you don’t vote at all, and then bitch on twitter that nobody picks correct rulers, and the west is falling

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              That is according to the democratic establishment that sells those points to the weak minded to shift the blame from their unpopular candidates running status quo campaigns losing.

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                Well, some of them are here now, but you’d be surprised how many of the permanently online American “left” is addicted to that hellhole. They’re addicted to angry arguing, and twitter being ruled by mekahitler is an ideal platform for it.
                But it actually doesn’t really matter which social media they bitch on this days.

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    Time for my least favorite game!

    “Imagine a Democrat did that to a Republican!”

    … Fox News would be running that story for a week, screaming at the public about how they’re being discriminated against and how the Democrats hate freedom and free speech. How they hate “you” and your “values” etc etc etc…

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    “Gavin Newsom-” aaand the comments are flooded lmao. I mean, I despise Newsom as much as I can, but, also, this is World News.

    In the spirit of a non-USA news subreddit, I’ll point out that California governor Newsom feels like a weird speaker for a world economic event. Yes, I know Newsom had to deal with the Republican administration when ICE and the military were deployed to Los Angeles, CA; but if you’re looking for a leader to advise you on opposing Trump from an economic standpoint, wouldn’t an economic department head from Canada be a better choice?

    Canada’s been dealing with Republican isolationist tariff policy fairly well from what I know. Facing the most direct pressure over the “51st state” invasion threats, the Canadian population is pushing away from USA brands and investing in domestic products. With alllll the nations facing tariffs from the USA, surely a dialogue about encouraging such shifts in a population would be valuable.

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      I’m sorry, but the people at Davos have no material interest in opposing Trump. The global oligarchy and the politicians they employ are preparing the world for neo-feudalism, and Trump is their Messiah.

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      It’s too much to say the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but he’s on of the handful actually speaking up and the one with the most chips on the table.

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      Newsome is there because if California were to leave the US, we would be the fourth or fifth largest economy in the world, and if Trump keeps doing what he’s doing the rest of the US would dip to number 2

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        I really don’t think that California will secede and it would be stupid of any USA governor to suggest that. Sedition would warrant a military response, and I’m certain the Republican administration would obliterate the state given how they’re reacting to anyone opposing their fascist paramilitary “ICE”.

        Edit: Upon re-reading I think I understand what you’re saying. Newsom is the head of California and he leads California’s economy, which includes Silicon Valley and the major Fin-Tech companies. I see; I see.

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      Given that snivelling Nigel Fucking Farage spoke at one of the Davos events the bar can’t be that high.

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        Good point. Newsome manages the fourth-largest economy in the world and Farage . . . well, I seem to remember something about a bus and the NHS, but I don’t think anything ever came of it, lol

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          I think the bus was Boris’s, which made it even more egregious for the fact that he subsequently became Prime Minister and acted like the whole thing was just a jolly jape that wasn’t meant to be taken literally.

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        if you’re talking about policy choices, canada has a lot more relevance to a world economic forum though. ata bare minimum, california is a lot more constrained in how it can behave, making its solutions largely only relevant to the context of other US states - unless you’re talking purely social/soft solutions

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          If they push for something like emission standards in the US, other states get drawn in since OEMs need to adhere to California and it’s often easier just to make the 1 product everywhere, but that also ripples outside the country to some extent.

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          I don’t know where you got that idea from. doesn’t make sense when you think about it.

          do you really believe there are economic constraints on a state in the largest economic country that holds capitalism in the highest regard?

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            … yes…

            canada can do basically whatever it wants theoretically

            california can’t use its national guard without risk of federalisation, its can’t issue tariffs or any kind of trade controls, it can’t even stop giving money to the aggressor via taxes to finance its own aggression

            hell california apparently can’t even stop the federal government from doing blatantly illegal shit

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                what do trade controls and taxation have to do with global economics…? is that what you’re asking?

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                  so you’re just talking out your ass. my fault for expecting anything out of some rando on the internet.

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                Almost everything. California doesn’t make trade rules, it doesn’t regulate interstate commerce, and those that do are outwardly hostile to them. There’s a good chance he gets indicted next year in the run up to the election, even though he’s a lousy candidate and choosing him or any of the establishment picks is akin to throwing the election, again.

                Unless he finds his backbone and constructs a popular reform ticket, but he was chosen not to do that.

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    ITT, idealists once again letting perfect be the enemy of good.

    It’s worked so well the past few elections.

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      It’s bizarre. People don’t learn to negotiate or accept half a load of bread when offered.

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      Oh look someone else pushing and autocrat with a blue paint job instead of red, telling us to pre submit to an obviously terrible choice. Being better than the worst option doesn’t make him by any means, good.

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      The Democrats have had nothing but people like Newsom since the 1980s but you think that’s the best course of action? He was invited there because he would only talk about cultural grievances and not the economic ones that the wealthy are currently causing.

      Nobody wants perfect. A neoliberal Democrat winning will just continue the kleptocracy while lying to us about it. Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are controlled opposition.

      Also, Ben Shapiro, the lying little shit ran circles around him on Newsom’s podcast. Made him seem like a weak bitch.

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        Plus Newsom had his chance in 2024, when we needed a winnable candidate and he decided it was better to let the country fall than be accused of stepping over a minority woman, nevermind the fact she was massively unpopular and running as the status quo while republicans ran as reform. That biden’s presidency was a shit show, people wanted a change, and they didn’t know better than to not vote for the republicans.

        Seriously, it’s not just he doesn’t deserve it, that he would not be popular enough to end the fascist threat and restore the republic, it’s that he won’t be popular enough to win, not the least with republicans cheating every way they can. At most he will ask the courts to let him have the election and they will say no.

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        The Democrats have had nothing but people like Newsom since the 1980s but you think that’s the best course of action?

        Well, they won every popular vote except two, so don’t be so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater

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          That’s when they lost Congress for the first time in half a century. And Republicans have held that advantage for most of the time since then. It’s not just the presidency that is affected by their rich-first policies

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          Yes, Obama ran on hope, change and anti-war… A litera promised leftist revolution. What did we get? More centrists. Democrats lost over 1000 seats in state and federal offices. Bankers in charge of policing banks. George W Bush and his cronies walking free after years on criminal activity by his administration.

          Biden was just the result of the DNC and all of the centrists grouping together to defeat Bernie Sanders for the second time.

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          Because at the time of the general election all other options left of center right are effectively removed with no support from the democratic party. They basically haven’t even pretended to have a democratic primary since Obama in 2008, instead choosing to coronate whoever the super delegates choose, which has worked true wonders for the party /s. They’re already starting the motions to do this again with their next center right candidate in Newsom.

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          Well, they won every popular vote except two, so don’t be so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater

          Why not run a charismatic candidate with popular policy and win the electoral college too?

          We’re not trying to tie one hand behind our backs to impress our dads, we should do what has the best chance of actually winning…

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      He is not good, he even denied genocide in Gaza and protected billionaires

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        And had photo-ops while clearing homeless camps.

        He’s not Trump, but most of Trump’s donors would neither mind nor care.

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      Stop saying that bullshit nonsense. He is not “good”. We don’t demand perfection, we demand that these people don’t be genocidal right wing fascist light.

      I hate whatever pundit told you all to say “dont let perfect be the enemy of good.” It makes me feel like I’m talking to a bunch of programmed robots.

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        It’s a saying that isn’t new.

        I welcome critique if Newsom before the primaries. I love AOC and sanders and walz as much as anyone here, but until one of them is electable, we’re kinda stuck in this chicken or the egg problem here. Like it or not, and to be clear i do not, someone with true leftist bona fides isn’t yet electable in the US. The best we can hope for is someone who can listen and change their mind.

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            As a voter in the primaries I go leftist. But if I’ve got money on the outcome, it’s someone like Newsom.

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              Newsom is unelectable and will not beat Trump or a Trump surrogate in the next federal election, and will not do anything to fix what Trump has done if he does get elected. It doesn’t matter how much voter shaming you do. Understand this, please, for the love of God. I do not want my country to have to go to war against yours.

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          It’s not a saying, it’s a thought-terminating cliche used to shut down discussions by making your opponent seem “unreasonable” under any circumstance. For example, one could say “We should appreciate having Donald Trump as president because Hitler caused a lot more harm. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” and be just as accurate as what you’re saying now.

          I love AOC and sanders and walz as much as anyone here, but until one of them is electable, we’re kinda stuck in this chicken or the egg problem here. Like it or not, and to be clear i do not, someone with true leftist bona fides isn’t yet electable in the US.

          What’s the scenario where they “become electable” in your mind, and what exactly is the path between here and there that involves electing more Bidens and Newsoms while being continuously told that anyone better is unelectable?

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          How many times do you guys have to lose against Trump before you realize that the candidates you’re backing aren’t electable? You haven’t even tried a candidate that is true bonafide leftist.

          Except mamdani. Who won his election.

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      He is a corpocrate. A shill for the wealthy. He represents the white moderates.

      I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

      MLK advocated for some pretty radical changes to our society. Not just racial equality. We need the white moderates to lose their investments, or they won’t really help. They have too much to lose, they think maybe tomorrow would be more opportune.

      Same then, same now.

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        I actually agree with you. But experience tells me we’re too principled and undisciplined to support any candidate after the primaries.

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          I agree with that. Both voters and politicians share the blame for Trump being in office. Democrats fail to run good candidates, but voters refuse to have their voices heard in primaries as well as thinking that doing a “protest vote” in generals is useful.

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      The options have been rather poor, let’s all be honest here. This would work if we were talking about say, AOC. Newsom, however, is bad. Very bad.

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      I will support him as far as it supports positive movement. I will criticize him otherwise. Same with every neo-liberal before him, and will continue with every neo-liberal after him.

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      Idealists are letting perfect be the enemy of the good but I don’t think that’s why Democrats underperformed. Neither Clinton nor Biden/Harris were idealists of this sort (despite some stuff Harris said but didn’t mean back in the 2020 primaries) and they didn’t lose elections because of a lack of support from the idealists. So IMO while the idealists aren’t helping, the very much non-idealistic institutions of the Democratic party which prioritize seniority within the party over electability are to blame.

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        Clinton I don’t know. Harris did for sure (her less that “perfect” stance on Palestine). And Biden, the most centrist of the three, won. so, your point?

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          Biden didn’t win because he ran a great campaign, though he did at least give some lip service in an attempt to bring the progressives in after the primary, he won because Trump was currently in office and his chaos and damage was undeniable and at the top of people’s minds.

          Instead of trying to parse out which of three centrist candidates was more centrist (not as obvious as you claim), there’s actually a simple pattern. Every one of those elections was won by the “change” candidate. As people get more and more ground down by the impacts of decades of neoliberalism draining wealth from the middle class, the non ideological segment of the electorate just keeps asking for “different from now”.

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      It’s worked so well the past few elections.

      The last few elections had historically unpopular, zero charisma candidates who all had policy positions so far right, they weren’t just to the right of the dem voter base, they were to the right of the average American…

      Acting like anyone more liberal than Ronald Reagan was the problem is actively harmful, be cause yelling out voters to shut up and vote blue no matter who won’t actually solve anything.

      And as we saw with Biden, at a certain point the absence of more harm isnt enough.

      We need someone “progressive” enough to actually try and implement a solution.

      Even the voting members of the DNC realized that a year ago…

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      Just hold on, any day now Lemmy will find a candidate so pure they can rally behind them.

      Any day now.

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        I mean, a devil with hooves would be a better president than Trump. It could do much less damage.

        But Newsom? Yea, he’s also right around there somewhere. He is a 100% just another puppet for the same billionares as Trump is (Thiel, Tech bros, Murdoch, Bibi etc.).

        Nothing would change for the better under him. The ultra-rich would keep on getting richer, while everyone else would keep on sliding down. Fully 2/3 of the US citizens now live paycheck to paycheck. Both Trump and Newsom would be mainly working on bringing this up to 95-99%. Which would be causing even more (well deserved) unrest. And so Newsom would/is blaming the migrants for this, just the same. I mean, somebody has to be the scapegoat, so people don’t realise the rich would need to be taxed. And migrants are the obvious, already well-propagandised choice. Maybe ICE would murder and brutalise a few less people under Newsom, but even that is not guaranteed.

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          Internally for the US, maybe…

          But Newsom wouldn’t be threatening Canada, Greenland and Venezuela with annexation, or putting tariffs on anyone who insults him. Or threatening the leaders of democratic allied nations with imprisonment and coups d’etat because of personal disagreements, or creating federal concentration camps in Florida and El Salvador, or deporting random Indians and Salvadorans to Uganda, or mocking veterans and the disabled, or threatening to dissolve NATO and most international organisations, or fantasising about stopping elections, or attempting coups d’etat upon losing an election, or stealing classified documents and hiding them in his bathroom after leaving office, or tearing down the White House for personal reasons, or putting his name on every institution and monument…

          I think this subreddit needs to realise that although the problem is capitalism, Trump isn’t just any old capitalist monster. He’s a fucking tyrant.

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      I mean, I’m generally in favor of keeping US news out of World News, but this clearly fits here. Any drama at a meeting of world leaders is a World event.

      World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland

      Key Attendees Include:

      Political Leaders: Presidents, Prime Ministers, and other top government officials, often with representation from G7, G20, and BRICS nations.
      
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          Silencing dissenting voices at an international venue from a notable and experienced politician is an international issue. International access to American political voices, especially those on disagreement with the current leadership, is an important thing for world, and international business leaders to hear, which is exactly what the Fortune Magazine dinner event he was denied entry to is about.

          Look at this another way…rather than “American governor wasn’t allowed to speak to international audience”, it is equally “international audience not allowed to hear from American governor”

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              I’m not sure how you can look at someone being blocked from speaking to an international audience of world and business leaders - not because nobody is interested, but for political reasons - and not see that as an international issue, regardless of who the involved parties are.

              An international organization: We want this person to speak

              The international audience: We have come here, expecting that this person will be speaking in this place and at this time

              The International press: We cover this international event every year, where this person will be speaking

              A US Politician: We have pressured management so that this person cannot speak here because we don’t like what they have to say

              You: This is an internal US issue

              Like… what?

              I get that you may not give a shit about what Gavin Newsom has to say but clearly that international audience, the organizers, and others did. And they were denied that opportunity. That’s international news whether you care about it or not

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                  And you didn’t read the article. He wasn’t setting up a booth. He was a featured speaker.

                  Official US room? You don’t even understand the story. “The US House, Davos” is a location, a venue, where the Fortune Global Leadership Dinner is being held.

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    Clown governor getting the standard Trump pimp slap.

    This man is never going to be president if Donald Trump can bully him so easily

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        It’s almost worse than him hating homeless and trans people. He doesn’t give a single shit about them. He’ll do whatever he thinks will get him votes. He’ll talk shit about trans people one day and talk about how he wants to protect them the next. I’m convinced that he doesn’t have a single belief that he wouldn’t give up to be the Democratic nominee in 2028, if we even have elections then. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is worth listening to.

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          Exactly, the problem isn’t even what he has give up to be the nominee and win, it’s what he’s going to do once he’s in office and doesn’t have to pretend to appease voters. He’s basically JD Vance with mask on and better PR

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      Newsom would be a categorically awful pick for president. Being better than orangeboi is a very, very low bar.

      And this of course also assumes we’re still having elections at that point - let alone this year.

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      No idea why you’re being downvoted. Likely the Liberal Mob with the “he’s better than what we’ve got” mentality.

      Newsom might be good at trolling Trump, but he’s a garbage Neolib dick-weasel.

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        I think Newsom has a mob that idolises seeing him do theatrical owns of MAGA and confuses that with having a plan or substance and I think they see criticism of that as not fighting enough against MAGA

        I don’t know how you see his soundbites at Davos and don’t notice they are for domestic US voters and have no substance besides a performative campaign akin to Trump’s strongman

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          Those owns are fun and good, but they’re not Newsome. His Twitter lady can just go work for a good candidate. He himself is worthless.

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          I like to refer to the folks that believe in him (and people like him) as Blue MAGA.

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            Don’t forget BlueAnon too. The people currently arguing with me in a separate post about how we shouldn’t be complaining about all the inaction from Democrats because now’s not the right time to act and they’ve totally got some 4D chess move planned for the future - COMING SOON®™

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        I’m not a fan of Gavin since he’s just a run of the mill neoliberal, but I think it’s silly to characterize this as his getting bullied, the USA House was the one that caved in this instance.

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      I would argue that this strengthens his campaign. Puts him in the spotlight more than if he had spoken.

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        I would argue that this strengthens his campaign.

        Imagining you saying this while wearing a big “Pokemon Go To The Polls” T-shirt

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        He’s gonna save America from Trump! I can smell the “liberating” narratives already, lol. Then shit will continue going down the drain and the Confederates/Republicans/Conservatives/MAGA will be upset and in some years you’ll have an already popular MAGA dude run for president and win, and it goes on and on. Maybe the Democrats will sprinkle some seasoning and have a brown “Muslim” dude or black woman president then, which will only annoy racist MAGA even more, making the next Republican candidate very popular and etc.

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      What do you want him to do, force himself in to speak? I’m not a fan of the guy but I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do here

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          You still haven’t articulated how he’s the one being bullied and not USA house, but ok.